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		<title>By: A.M. Mora y Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.M. Mora y Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 04:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a putrid story! Thanks Val, for telling it, though! UGH!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a putrid story! Thanks Val, for telling it, though! UGH!</p>
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		<title>By: rambito</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>greetings all - I remember hearing the famous ice cream story but I did not experience it personally as we were furtunate to leave cuba in august of 1960 (46 years ago this monrh - incredible).    In the fall of 1967 my cousin Alex and his family were finally able to get out and they had to drag his screaming and crying into the plane.   Seems like his commie teachers had drummed into his head that he would be killed when he arrived in the USA.

He was severely brainwashed and traumatized but a few trips to various toy stores in West New York, New Jersey very quickly cured him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greetings all - I remember hearing the famous ice cream story but I did not experience it personally as we were furtunate to leave cuba in august of 1960 (46 years ago this monrh - incredible).    In the fall of 1967 my cousin Alex and his family were finally able to get out and they had to drag his screaming and crying into the plane.   Seems like his commie teachers had drummed into his head that he would be killed when he arrived in the USA.</p>
<p>He was severely brainwashed and traumatized but a few trips to various toy stores in West New York, New Jersey very quickly cured him.</p>
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		<title>By: AshaNair</title>
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		<dc:creator>AshaNair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care if it is true or not, it fit perfectly in the castrianism frame: they have a touch for such perfidia...

Now we have an italian translation, too!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't care if it is true or not, it fit perfectly in the castrianism frame: they have a touch for such perfidia...</p>
<p>Now we have an italian translation, too!</p>
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		<title>By: pototo</title>
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		<dc:creator>pototo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had a very interesting discussion with a Venezuelan. I asked her if she was pro or anti/chavez. She said both sortof. I asked how? She said that her poor relatives in Venezuela are pro and the rich are anti. She said that they used to have to wait in line for medicines and to see doctors. I told her that once the Cuban medicine runs out and the Cuban doctors run away they&#039;ll be back to normal just as the Cubans are now. She admits he is crazy, BUT at least they are getting what they need. Sound familiar America? Looks like our liberal politicians all over again. Crazy, but they sure can BUY votes!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a very interesting discussion with a Venezuelan. I asked her if she was pro or anti/chavez. She said both sortof. I asked how? She said that her poor relatives in Venezuela are pro and the rich are anti. She said that they used to have to wait in line for medicines and to see doctors. I told her that once the Cuban medicine runs out and the Cuban doctors run away they'll be back to normal just as the Cubans are now. She admits he is crazy, BUT at least they are getting what they need. Sound familiar America? Looks like our liberal politicians all over again. Crazy, but they sure can BUY votes!</p>
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		<title>By: Val Prieto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val Prieto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sparkle,

I suppose you could interpret it that way. But the point of the story is that they were made to relinquish God, so in their eyes, children&#039;s eyes, it wasnt God who gave them their treat. It was the revolution.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sparkle,</p>
<p>I suppose you could interpret it that way. But the point of the story is that they were made to relinquish God, so in their eyes, children's eyes, it wasnt God who gave them their treat. It was the revolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Rightwingsparkle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rightwingsparkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the thing about the story. Didn&#039;t God answer the prayer? I mean he may have done it through a stupid teacher trying to teach a stupid lesson, but if they hadn&#039;t prayed to God first, they wouldn&#039;t have gotten their ice cream and cake, right?

Just a thought.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the thing about the story. Didn't God answer the prayer? I mean he may have done it through a stupid teacher trying to teach a stupid lesson, but if they hadn't prayed to God first, they wouldn't have gotten their ice cream and cake, right?</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: must love pork</title>
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		<dc:creator>must love pork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a very illustrative joke:

a regular cuban folk meets fidel and tells him: &quot;fidel, the situation is terrible, I&#039;m hungry!&quot;.
fidel the asks him to drink 10 gallons of water and afterwards offers him a plate of food. obviously the guy can&#039;t eat anything after all that water, to which fidel conningly comments: &quot;you see, you were just thirsty!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a very illustrative joke:</p>
<p>a regular cuban folk meets fidel and tells him: "fidel, the situation is terrible, I'm hungry!".<br />
fidel the asks him to drink 10 gallons of water and afterwards offers him a plate of food. obviously the guy can't eat anything after all that water, to which fidel conningly comments: "you see, you were just thirsty!"</p>
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		<title>By: cubitaTeVe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here goes another story.
There was someone in my class whose father/mother had gone a una mision somewhere out of Cuba and brought gum so this child brough a piece of gum to class and broke it into literally about 20 microscopic pieces. I was one of the fortunate to get one of those tiny pieces of Tutti Frutty gum. It was so little that you couldn&#039;t really chew on it, but just taste the sweetness and the scent of it. We all got in trouble and were sent to the principal&#039;s office because we were eating the food of the enemy (el producto del enemigo).
We should bring &quot;Escuela al campo&quot; stories to this blog one day. I have plenty!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here goes another story.<br />
There was someone in my class whose father/mother had gone a una mision somewhere out of Cuba and brought gum so this child brough a piece of gum to class and broke it into literally about 20 microscopic pieces. I was one of the fortunate to get one of those tiny pieces of Tutti Frutty gum. It was so little that you couldn't really chew on it, but just taste the sweetness and the scent of it. We all got in trouble and were sent to the principal's office because we were eating the food of the enemy (el producto del enemigo).<br />
We should bring "Escuela al campo" stories to this blog one day. I have plenty!!</p>
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		<title>By: DavidJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an amazing web site! I never knew anything like this existed! I stumbled onto it trying to find out information as to what is happening back home in Cuba.

The &quot;Ice cream&quot; story brought back tremendously powerful memories. I was born there in 1961 and we left in 1966. I VIVIDLY remember that incident at school, to this day. I&#039;ve told this story many times and people in the States have a tough time believing it. I&#039;m glad I&#039;ve found others that can collaborate these to be true.

My version goes something like this - the teacher asked how many of us believed there is a God. Of course, we all raised our hands. She went on to say that there is no God and she would prove it to us. She put a picture of Christ on the table next to an empty drinking glass. She told us to bow our heads and pray to Jesus Christ to fill that glass with water. Like good boys and girls, we did. When we were finished we opened our eyes to see an empty glass. The teacher said, &quot;see, I told you - there is NO God!&quot; She then placed a picture of Castro next to the empty glass and this time asked us to bow our heads and pray to Castro that he would fill the glass with water. Like good little boys and girls, we did. When we opened our eyes.... a glass full of water! Amazing!

And that&#039;s how the brainwashing began.

I thank the Lord everyday (and my parents) for getting us out of that hell-hole many years ago!

I returned to Cuba in 2004 for the first time since we left in 1966. What an emotional journey. I was able to see the effects of that brainwashing on all of my cousins that remained. I saw the life sucked out of them. I saw their lack of drive and purpose. The lack of hope! Walking zombies. I pray for them daily.

I also pray for Castro - I pray that as his earthly life is coming to an end that he would repent and make peace with God. I also pray that God would allow him to live long enough to come up with an exit strategy that would end communism and would help the people he says he loves make a peaceful transition to a free democracy.

One can still dream....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an amazing web site! I never knew anything like this existed! I stumbled onto it trying to find out information as to what is happening back home in Cuba.</p>
<p>The "Ice cream" story brought back tremendously powerful memories. I was born there in 1961 and we left in 1966. I VIVIDLY remember that incident at school, to this day. I've told this story many times and people in the States have a tough time believing it. I'm glad I've found others that can collaborate these to be true.</p>
<p>My version goes something like this - the teacher asked how many of us believed there is a God. Of course, we all raised our hands. She went on to say that there is no God and she would prove it to us. She put a picture of Christ on the table next to an empty drinking glass. She told us to bow our heads and pray to Jesus Christ to fill that glass with water. Like good boys and girls, we did. When we were finished we opened our eyes to see an empty glass. The teacher said, "see, I told you - there is NO God!" She then placed a picture of Castro next to the empty glass and this time asked us to bow our heads and pray to Castro that he would fill the glass with water. Like good little boys and girls, we did. When we opened our eyes.... a glass full of water! Amazing!</p>
<p>And that's how the brainwashing began.</p>
<p>I thank the Lord everyday (and my parents) for getting us out of that hell-hole many years ago!</p>
<p>I returned to Cuba in 2004 for the first time since we left in 1966. What an emotional journey. I was able to see the effects of that brainwashing on all of my cousins that remained. I saw the life sucked out of them. I saw their lack of drive and purpose. The lack of hope! Walking zombies. I pray for them daily.</p>
<p>I also pray for Castro - I pray that as his earthly life is coming to an end that he would repent and make peace with God. I also pray that God would allow him to live long enough to come up with an exit strategy that would end communism and would help the people he says he loves make a peaceful transition to a free democracy.</p>
<p>One can still dream....</p>
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		<title>By: Firefly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Pototo and RiverCocytus, Our parents did a very good job in raising us.  I’m also certain that in Cuba many parents are instilling those same values in their children.


Marquito,

The Puerto Rican Congressman you mention is José E. Serrano.  He was elected in March 1990.  During his election campaign he attended various anti-castro rallies as he courted the Cuban-American community for campaign donations.  He was very vocal during this time denouncing the castro regime.  Of course, all that changed as soon as he was elected.

“In recent years, Serrano has dedicated his public efforts to fiercely defend the communist oppression in Cuba and is today considered one of the Castro regime’s main lobbyists in Congress.”

Congressman Charles Rangel, also from New York has been a friend of fidel castro since the revolution.  He is also a rabid defender of the Cuban dictator and his regime.  Let’s hope that the democrats don’t win back the Congress and he has to keep his promise to retire.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Pototo and RiverCocytus, Our parents did a very good job in raising us.  I’m also certain that in Cuba many parents are instilling those same values in their children.</p>
<p>Marquito,</p>
<p>The Puerto Rican Congressman you mention is José E. Serrano.  He was elected in March 1990.  During his election campaign he attended various anti-castro rallies as he courted the Cuban-American community for campaign donations.  He was very vocal during this time denouncing the castro regime.  Of course, all that changed as soon as he was elected.</p>
<p>“In recent years, Serrano has dedicated his public efforts to fiercely defend the communist oppression in Cuba and is today considered one of the Castro regime’s main lobbyists in Congress.”</p>
<p>Congressman Charles Rangel, also from New York has been a friend of fidel castro since the revolution.  He is also a rabid defender of the Cuban dictator and his regime.  Let’s hope that the democrats don’t win back the Congress and he has to keep his promise to retire.</p>
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		<title>By: Ziva</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pototo, I don&#039;t want to start any trouble, but I agree with you.  Anyone who thinks that socialist handouts are not crippling need only look at the African American inner city communities in this country and what the &quot;welfare state&quot; has done to them.  The family structure is in tatters, education if frowned upon, criminals are celebrated as heros, the work ethic is lacking, and they have a huge sense of entitlement. All perpetuated by the likes of JJ &quot;Shakedown&quot; Jackson and crowd.  Before anyone jumps on me for being racist, I&#039;m not and obviously this doesn&#039;t apply to the whole community.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pototo, I don't want to start any trouble, but I agree with you.  Anyone who thinks that socialist handouts are not crippling need only look at the African American inner city communities in this country and what the "welfare state" has done to them.  The family structure is in tatters, education if frowned upon, criminals are celebrated as heros, the work ethic is lacking, and they have a huge sense of entitlement. All perpetuated by the likes of JJ "Shakedown" Jackson and crowd.  Before anyone jumps on me for being racist, I'm not and obviously this doesn't apply to the whole community.</p>
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		<title>By: DirtCrashr</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, that&#039;s a lot like how the Teacher&#039;s Union operates schools in California, except they pray to Democrats for increasing the Union funds!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, that's a lot like how the Teacher's Union operates schools in California, except they pray to Democrats for increasing the Union funds!</p>
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		<title>By: Orlando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, this happened to me.  I was in the 3rd or 4th grade, and I refused to wear the &quot;panueleta&quot; the pionero scarf.  To make an example out me the teacher asked the class to pray to God for candy, just plain candy.  Of couse no candy showed up.  Then she asked the class to ask fidel for candy, and wouldn&#039;t you know it, a bag of candy appeared.  Each student got one piece of candy (canquina), she even offered me a piece, which I refused.  I am proud to say that I NEVER wore the scarf, ever!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, this happened to me.  I was in the 3rd or 4th grade, and I refused to wear the "panueleta" the pionero scarf.  To make an example out me the teacher asked the class to pray to God for candy, just plain candy.  Of couse no candy showed up.  Then she asked the class to ask fidel for candy, and wouldn't you know it, a bag of candy appeared.  Each student got one piece of candy (canquina), she even offered me a piece, which I refused.  I am proud to say that I NEVER wore the scarf, ever!</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Venezolano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Venezolano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what say, except that the impact this story caused on me made me translate it into spanish on the spot. I guess I&#039;d like my fellow venezuelans to see the kind of things awaiting for them down the road to serfdom, if they don&#039;t act, and act quickly. (sometimes I think this a hopeless task, but anyway, that&#039;s beside the point). The translation is at &lt;a href=&quot;http://liberal-venezolano.net/blog/index.php/2006/08/07/helado_y_torta&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;El Liberal Venezolano&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know what say, except that the impact this story caused on me made me translate it into spanish on the spot. I guess I'd like my fellow venezuelans to see the kind of things awaiting for them down the road to serfdom, if they don't act, and act quickly. (sometimes I think this a hopeless task, but anyway, that's beside the point). The translation is at <a href="http://liberal-venezolano.net/blog/index.php/2006/08/07/helado_y_torta" rel="nofollow">El Liberal Venezolano</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: RiverCocytus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve often said that socialism and its extreme, communism try to replace God with Government (or the &#039;beloved leader&#039; or whomever...) but I never realised how overt it was.

Firefly: though I&#039;m a nondenominational Christian, I can still say of my brethren: Catholics kick ass :P

I remember a story about a Jesuit teacher that goes like this. The topic is the causes of World War I.

The Jesuit teacher tells the student what he claims the causes to be, and then asks the student if that is correct. The student, naturally, replies that it is (not wanting to question his teacher, most likely, or due to ignorance.)

The Jesuit then informs him that he lied, and that those were not the causes of World War I. He then proceeds to give him another set of causes for the First World War. He then asks the student if THOSE are correct.

The student, again, says yes.

At this point the Jesuit tells him that he lied to him AGAIN. And then informs him that the lesson is you cannot expect your opponent to tell you the truth. You have to know the truth for yourself.

Harsh. But that&#039;s what INSTRUCTION is, opposed to &#039;education&#039; or &#039;indoctrination&#039;.

The Ice Cream story kind of reveals how evil these regimes can really be, even if only subtly. Twain once said &quot;Never Let your schooling get in the way of your education.&quot; Good to see that Cubans know better than to buy into this crap.

As an aside, the student should know a game is afoot after the Jesuit lied to him the first time. Kind of like the recent Reuters thing?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've often said that socialism and its extreme, communism try to replace God with Government (or the 'beloved leader' or whomever...) but I never realised how overt it was.</p>
<p>Firefly: though I'm a nondenominational Christian, I can still say of my brethren: Catholics kick ass <img src='http://babalublog.com/wpr/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I remember a story about a Jesuit teacher that goes like this. The topic is the causes of World War I.</p>
<p>The Jesuit teacher tells the student what he claims the causes to be, and then asks the student if that is correct. The student, naturally, replies that it is (not wanting to question his teacher, most likely, or due to ignorance.)</p>
<p>The Jesuit then informs him that he lied, and that those were not the causes of World War I. He then proceeds to give him another set of causes for the First World War. He then asks the student if THOSE are correct.</p>
<p>The student, again, says yes.</p>
<p>At this point the Jesuit tells him that he lied to him AGAIN. And then informs him that the lesson is you cannot expect your opponent to tell you the truth. You have to know the truth for yourself.</p>
<p>Harsh. But that's what INSTRUCTION is, opposed to 'education' or 'indoctrination'.</p>
<p>The Ice Cream story kind of reveals how evil these regimes can really be, even if only subtly. Twain once said "Never Let your schooling get in the way of your education." Good to see that Cubans know better than to buy into this crap.</p>
<p>As an aside, the student should know a game is afoot after the Jesuit lied to him the first time. Kind of like the recent Reuters thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Marquito</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine who defected in 1995 lived and went to school in Las Villas.  He is an evangelical Christian, as are his parents.  I had never heard this story in particular, but he did tell me similar ones, that were equally as disturbing.  Belief in a creator God represents ridicule and alienation, and to a child, there is almost nothing worse.

I remember back during the Elian situation, a NJ congressman (some Puerto Rican guy whose name I don&#039;t recall) who was in support of sending Elian back said something to the effect of &#039;if freedom means having a TV in every room, game system, and cell phone, then I guess he (Elian)won&#039;t have freedom in Cuba.&#039;  It&#039;s sad that freedom, to many people, is interpreted as material wealth and possesions. Freedom of expression and religion are rarely even discussed any more.  The realm of reason and thought is suffering.

Thanks for bringing this up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine who defected in 1995 lived and went to school in Las Villas.  He is an evangelical Christian, as are his parents.  I had never heard this story in particular, but he did tell me similar ones, that were equally as disturbing.  Belief in a creator God represents ridicule and alienation, and to a child, there is almost nothing worse.</p>
<p>I remember back during the Elian situation, a NJ congressman (some Puerto Rican guy whose name I don't recall) who was in support of sending Elian back said something to the effect of 'if freedom means having a TV in every room, game system, and cell phone, then I guess he (Elian)won't have freedom in Cuba.'  It's sad that freedom, to many people, is interpreted as material wealth and possesions. Freedom of expression and religion are rarely even discussed any more.  The realm of reason and thought is suffering.</p>
<p>Thanks for bringing this up.</p>
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		<title>By: Val Prieto</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pototo,

Thank you. You pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pototo,</p>
<p>Thank you. You pretty much hit the nail on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: pototo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw - the ice cream story lives on today. While Cuba has &quot;freedom of religion&quot; many contacts of mine in Cuba tell me of children confronted on the way into Baptists churchs and offered many of the dainties such as ice cream which they can not get too freely. The awesome things is when these kids walk right past the ice cream and go to church. My mon was a school teacher in Cuba and has shared the story with me and it is true regarding the ice cream in schools.
Mavi and firefly, it is that spirit that will rebuld Cuba.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw - the ice cream story lives on today. While Cuba has "freedom of religion" many contacts of mine in Cuba tell me of children confronted on the way into Baptists churchs and offered many of the dainties such as ice cream which they can not get too freely. The awesome things is when these kids walk right past the ice cream and go to church. My mon was a school teacher in Cuba and has shared the story with me and it is true regarding the ice cream in schools.<br />
Mavi and firefly, it is that spirit that will rebuld Cuba.</p>
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		<title>By: conductor</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with FL mom.
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		<title>By: Firefly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is no Urban Legend.  It personally happened to me.

I don&#039;t exactly remember the date, but I believe it was the 1959-1960 school year.  It happened in the afternoon after we had returned to school from lunch break (children in my school went home for lunch at 12:00n and returned at 2:00p.  School hours were from 8:00a-5:00p)

In my case it was not the teacher who possed the question (and this was for ice cream only) it was a &quot;miliciana.&quot;  The children in the classroom bowed their heads like good little children and asked God for ice cream.  Of course nothing happened.  Then as instructed, they bowed their heads and prayed for &quot;papa fidel&quot; for ice cream.  You guessed it!  All of the sudden the ice cream materialized.

I was nine years old at the time, and as my mother would have said, very HARDHEADED.  I didn&#039;t bow my head nor prayed either time, but kept staring at the miliciana throughout the whole episode.

As they were passing out the ice cream, I refused mine.  At this point the &quot;miliciana&quot; came to my desk, pulled me up by the arm and asked why I handn&#039;t prayed to God for ice cream, or to fidel! I replied like a good little Catholic &quot;one doesn&#039;t pray to God for material things, and fidel is not my papa; only my real papa buys me ice cream.&quot;

Needless to say, I got my parents in a heap of trouble.  Shortly thereafter we left Cuba.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is no Urban Legend.  It personally happened to me.</p>
<p>I don't exactly remember the date, but I believe it was the 1959-1960 school year.  It happened in the afternoon after we had returned to school from lunch break (children in my school went home for lunch at 12:00n and returned at 2:00p.  School hours were from 8:00a-5:00p)</p>
<p>In my case it was not the teacher who possed the question (and this was for ice cream only) it was a "miliciana."  The children in the classroom bowed their heads like good little children and asked God for ice cream.  Of course nothing happened.  Then as instructed, they bowed their heads and prayed for "papa fidel" for ice cream.  You guessed it!  All of the sudden the ice cream materialized.</p>
<p>I was nine years old at the time, and as my mother would have said, very HARDHEADED.  I didn't bow my head nor prayed either time, but kept staring at the miliciana throughout the whole episode.</p>
<p>As they were passing out the ice cream, I refused mine.  At this point the "miliciana" came to my desk, pulled me up by the arm and asked why I handn't prayed to God for ice cream, or to fidel! I replied like a good little Catholic "one doesn't pray to God for material things, and fidel is not my papa; only my real papa buys me ice cream."</p>
<p>Needless to say, I got my parents in a heap of trouble.  Shortly thereafter we left Cuba.</p>
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