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]]> By: Honey http://babalublog.com/2009/04/omg-omg-omg/#comment-94616 Honey Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:38:53 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=20085#comment-94616 Alfred Soto, You miss the point of the post. It doesn't matter if the anger against Obama on this comes from the left. The point of the post is that Obama, the candidate constantly criticized Bush for using wiretapping, but Obama, the president not only follows Bush's lead, but outdoes Bush by even blocking court review. Just another of his about faces when it suits his purposes. Also, Bush was correct on this issue and never got a break from the left. He didn't do warrantless or illegal wiretapping. He got the courts involved and restricted his eavesdropping to calls made to and from suspicious countries. I never felt any fear over such listening in. Rather I felt safer. But where Obama is concerned, he doesn't restrict his listening. And he doesn't want the courts to be allowed to stop him. He could listen in on anyone's phone calls and why shouldn't we all feel threatened if he decided to listen so he could ferret out those who disagree with him? Alfred Soto,
You miss the point of the post. It doesn't matter if the anger against Obama on this comes from the left. The point of the post is that Obama, the candidate constantly criticized Bush for using wiretapping, but Obama, the president not only follows Bush's lead, but outdoes Bush by even blocking court review. Just another of his about faces when it suits his purposes.
Also, Bush was correct on this issue and never got a break from the left. He didn't do warrantless or illegal wiretapping. He got the courts involved and restricted his eavesdropping to calls made to and from suspicious countries. I never felt any fear over such listening in. Rather I felt safer.
But where Obama is concerned, he doesn't restrict his listening. And he doesn't want the courts to be allowed to stop him. He could listen in on anyone's phone calls and why shouldn't we all feel threatened if he decided to listen so he could ferret out those who disagree with him?

]]> By: Alfred Soto http://babalublog.com/2009/04/omg-omg-omg/#comment-94596 Alfred Soto Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:09:51 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=20085#comment-94596 Sorry, George and Val, but you're both wrong. Most of the disgust has come from the left. This is a pretty good aggregate of what the Bush AND Obama administrations' most relentless critic has posted: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/09/tpm/index.html And if here's Talking Points Media's excerpt: "During the presidential campaign, Obama criticized Bush for being too quick to invoke the state secrets claim. But last Friday, his Justice Department filed a motion in a warrantless wiretapping lawsuit, brought by the digital-rights group EFF. And the Obama-ites took a page out of the Bush DOJ's playbook by demanding that the suit, Jewel v. NSA, be dismissed entirely under the state secrets privilege, arguing that allowing it go forward would jeopardize national security. Coming on the heels of the two other recent cases in which the new administration has asserted the state secrets privilege, the motion sparked outrage among civil libertarians and many progressive commentators. Salon's Glenn Greenwald wrote that the move "demonstrates that the Obama DOJ plans to invoke the exact radical doctrines of executive secrecy which Bush used." MSNBC's Keith Olbermann called it "deja vu all over again". An online petition -- "Tell Obama: Stop blocking court review of illegal wiretapping" -- soon appeared." Sorry, George and Val, but you're both wrong. Most of the disgust has come from the left. This is a pretty good aggregate of what the Bush AND Obama administrations' most relentless critic has posted:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/09/tpm/index.html

And if here's Talking Points Media's excerpt:

"During the presidential campaign, Obama criticized Bush for being too quick to invoke the state secrets claim. But last Friday, his Justice Department filed a motion in a warrantless wiretapping lawsuit, brought by the digital-rights group EFF. And the Obama-ites took a page out of the Bush DOJ's playbook by demanding that the suit, Jewel v. NSA, be dismissed entirely under the state secrets privilege, arguing that allowing it go forward would jeopardize national security.

Coming on the heels of the two other recent cases in which the new administration has asserted the state secrets privilege, the motion sparked outrage among civil libertarians and many progressive commentators. Salon's Glenn Greenwald wrote that the move "demonstrates that the Obama DOJ plans to invoke the exact radical doctrines of executive secrecy which Bush used." MSNBC's Keith Olbermann called it "deja vu all over again". An online petition -- "Tell Obama: Stop blocking court review of illegal wiretapping" -- soon appeared."

]]> By: Felixthe3rd http://babalublog.com/2009/04/omg-omg-omg/#comment-94595 Felixthe3rd Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:04:40 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=20085#comment-94595 Which is why I retracted my question, and after rereading I noticed just what you mentioned. Esto es como cambiando Bastista por Fidel...Naturally we would want Batista back...at least his corruption doesn't affect us, unless people did something about it. Which is why I retracted my question, and after rereading I noticed just what you mentioned. Esto es como cambiando Bastista por Fidel...Naturally we would want Batista back...at least his corruption doesn't affect us, unless people did something about it.

]]> By: George Moneo http://babalublog.com/2009/04/omg-omg-omg/#comment-94594 George Moneo Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:42:25 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=20085#comment-94594 The post was not about warrantless wiretapping; it was about liberal hypocrisy in the face of the new developments we referenced. The fact that a law was passed (The Patriot Act) that permits warrantless wiretapping doesn't make it any less egregious and a violation of my Fourth Amendment rights. The post was not about warrantless wiretapping; it was about liberal hypocrisy in the face of the new developments we referenced. The fact that a law was passed (The Patriot Act) that permits warrantless wiretapping doesn't make it any less egregious and a violation of my Fourth Amendment rights.

]]> By: Felixthe3rd http://babalublog.com/2009/04/omg-omg-omg/#comment-94591 Felixthe3rd Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:10:15 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=20085#comment-94591 I reread your post and it cancels out my question if you are or against the Patriot Act. Everything else I said still holds. I reread your post and it cancels out my question if you are or against the Patriot Act. Everything else I said still holds.

]]> By: Felixthe3rd http://babalublog.com/2009/04/omg-omg-omg/#comment-94590 Felixthe3rd Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:05:11 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=20085#comment-94590 Val, are you stating that you've never been against warrentless wire-tapping even though it is infringing on your right as an American citizen, a right to privacy? What if all of the sudden there was a crack down on people believed to be terrorist--anyone including you or me, because of what we said on the phone, or the internet, etc--and we are hauled off to unknown facilities, presumably tortured and interrogated. What then? I mean how much of this really has to be spelled out for someone to get that The Patriot Act, as well intentioned as it might have seemed after 9/11, strips you of the very thing that keeps you and your family safe, your privacy. And I blame our 43rd just as much as I blame our 44th president for continuing the Patriot Act, and basically everything from stealing the presidency with his lies to making us look like a weak country in front in his European (acid)trip. The fact of the matter is that because of the Patriot Act no one is safe, the mere word and feeling of being safe is just an illusion. I've said it before and I've said it again, the president is but a puppet and is given certain functions to look like he has power, yet we are being ruled by an oligarchy, the parties are bought and paid for by them to bicker and give us a show in where they're at each other's throats. Distracting and misguiding us. Y Val, yo no te estoy criticando ni nada, yo dama te estoy diciendo lo que yo a visto en la noticias, y poniendo pedezos de rompecabezas en su lugar. To just end and sum up what I'm saying is that The patriot Act is not very Patriotic at all. Val, are you stating that you've never been against warrentless wire-tapping even though it is infringing on your right as an American citizen, a right to privacy? What if all of the sudden there was a crack down on people believed to be terrorist--anyone including you or me, because of what we said on the phone, or the internet, etc--and we are hauled off to unknown facilities, presumably tortured and interrogated. What then? I mean how much of this really has to be spelled out for someone to get that The Patriot Act, as well intentioned as it might have seemed after 9/11, strips you of the very thing that keeps you and your family safe, your privacy. And I blame our 43rd just as much as I blame our 44th president for continuing the Patriot Act, and basically everything from stealing the presidency with his lies to making us look like a weak country in front in his European (acid)trip.

The fact of the matter is that because of the Patriot Act no one is safe, the mere word and feeling of being safe is just an illusion. I've said it before and I've said it again, the president is but a puppet and is given certain functions to look like he has power, yet we are being ruled by an oligarchy, the parties are bought and paid for by them to bicker and give us a show in where they're at each other's throats. Distracting and misguiding us.

Y Val, yo no te estoy criticando ni nada, yo dama te estoy diciendo lo que yo a visto en la noticias, y poniendo pedezos de rompecabezas en su lugar.

To just end and sum up what I'm saying is that The patriot Act is not very Patriotic at all.

]]> By: Alfred Soto http://babalublog.com/2009/04/omg-omg-omg/#comment-94587 Alfred Soto Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:31:26 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=20085#comment-94587 Kidding aside, what's your opinion? In the two years I've read this site I've yet to read a lengthy, intelligent post on warrentless wiretapping. Judging from the tone and tenor of the posts and comments, it's perfectly fair to ask if you'd be this cavalier had a Democrat won in 2000 or 2004 and 9-11 had still happened. Kidding aside, what's your opinion? In the two years I've read this site I've yet to read a lengthy, intelligent post on warrentless wiretapping. Judging from the tone and tenor of the posts and comments, it's perfectly fair to ask if you'd be this cavalier had a Democrat won in 2000 or 2004 and 9-11 had still happened.

]]> By: Obama: Stop Rewriting American History and Stop Attacking America and Christianity « Frugal Café Blog Zone http://babalublog.com/2009/04/omg-omg-omg/#comment-94581 Obama: Stop Rewriting American History and Stop Attacking America and Christianity « Frugal Café Blog Zone Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:24:34 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=20085#comment-94581 [...] Losing God In America Val Prieto, Babalú Blog, on the net without a bearded dictator: OMG OMG OMG!!!!!See-Dubya, Michelle Malkin’s blog: Remember that Saudi Academy in Fairfax, VA? Yeah, their [...] [...] Losing God In America Val Prieto, Babalú Blog, on the net without a bearded dictator: OMG OMG OMG!!!!!See-Dubya, Michelle Malkin’s blog: Remember that Saudi Academy in Fairfax, VA? Yeah, their [...]

]]> By: Honey http://babalublog.com/2009/04/omg-omg-omg/#comment-94579 Honey Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:09:30 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=20085#comment-94579 But, don't you see? We mustn't waste taxpayers' time and money on examining the president's "lies, obfuscations, reverses from his campaign promises, and power grabs". The American people understand that that time and money would be much better spent investigating and charging and incarcerating the members of the last administration, paying highest attention to those criminals, Bush, CHENEY, and ROVE! When are the American people going to wake up and write their representatives in congress that it is imperative to get rolling on these indictments? I lie awake at night, I can't sleep because nobody is going after those criminals. How can anyone not love our current president? He is so moving, so gasp, breathtaking, so tall, so oohhh. But BUSH! Aaaarrghhh. We MUST do something to them to punish them, to,.. why isn't anyone listening to me? Is everyone asleep? I can't stand him!!! Where, why, what, when, who?????? sputter, sputter, hate, love, where, wh....Aaaahhhhh! But, don't you see? We mustn't waste taxpayers' time and money on examining the president's "lies, obfuscations, reverses from his campaign promises, and power grabs". The American people understand that that time and money would be much better spent investigating and charging and incarcerating the members of the last administration, paying highest attention to those criminals, Bush, CHENEY, and ROVE! When are the American people going to wake up and write their representatives in congress that it is imperative to get rolling on these indictments?
I lie awake at night, I can't sleep because nobody is going after those criminals. How can anyone not love our current president? He is so moving, so gasp, breathtaking, so tall, so oohhh. But BUSH! Aaaarrghhh. We MUST do something to them to punish them, to,.. why isn't anyone listening to me? Is everyone asleep? I can't stand him!!! Where, why, what, when, who?????? sputter, sputter, hate, love, where, wh....Aaaahhhhh!

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