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What About Global Warming?

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Well infidels, I have returned. I went to Virginia in mid October to get foliage photos. This is what greeted me yesterday morning....Virginia is not supposed to get snow until November. I was in a winter wonderland out there. Yep, I got my winter shots in October. That's global warming for you.

Shot at Shenandoah National Park - Virginia.

27 comments to What About Global Warming?

  • Orgullosa de ser Cubana

    You should send an 8x10 to Al Gore! As always, great photo Mike. So when are you doing a photo show??????

  • aar33178

    Hey Mike, you didn't get the memo? In our brave new Obama world, it isn't "global warming" anymore; now it is "climate change", a term that will cover litle inconvenient truths such as the one you encountered in Virginia. Kinda like when they went from "liberal" to "progressive" once Americans figured ut what a "liberal" is. Notice they've gone back to "liberal" now that they think they have the upper hand.

  • Orgullosa de ser Cubana

    I have a new web site coming up soon ....

  • Orgullosa de ser Cubana

    Great, make sure you post the link.

  • Mike,

    That looks like a good 3 maybe 4 inches of global warming covering everything.

  • Val, my kids posed alongside a 6 foot snowman....

    did I mention this was Virginia?

  • Spygirl

    For approximately a decade before it went mainstream, the concept that the planet was entering a warming period was presented by various scientists (clmatologists, biologists, oceanographers, etc.) in the prestigious scientific journals of Nature and of Science. In order to get a paper published in either of these journals, it must be peer reviewed, and let me tell you, the reviewers are ultra-critical. The scientific papers presented in the journals agreed on the phenomenon being present. The scientists decided to publicize their findings. I repeat, these were scientists. And they were from several disciplines. Then, some of the politicians decided to take it up as their platform, the most notable being Al Gore. Unfortunately, when one politician takes up a cause, other politicians will automatically go against it, regardless of the facts.

    Now, the facts are that, whether we like it or not, there is a global warming taking place. This has happened before numerous times in the planet's history and is well documented by oceanographers, geologists, biologists, etc. Whether the present warming is due to human activity or just part of these climate fluctuations, that is a totally different story, but global warming is a fact. California has had every summer horrific forest fires. Australia has been in a drought for almost a decade. Georgia and Texas have had huge lakes' levels drop by ten feet. Glaciers are diminishing in Switzerland and Chile. And so on. It is absurd to deny this fact and even though we experience interruptions in this pattern (as in Mike's trip, or the very recent rains in Georgia and Texas from el Nino), the pattern remains. Simply because a liberal rides an airline, I would not refuse to fly in an airline. That's just absurd.

    In the 70s, when the ecology movement took off, we had liberals take up the cause and many of them were (are) either total flakes and dangerous (like Earth First), or they were out and out Communists that used the ecology platform for their anti-industrial, anti-capitalist propaganda. Even so, there WAS a problem with the ecology. The bald eagle, just to take an example, was almost extinct. Ohio rivers caught on fire. etc. Unfortunately, conservatives walked away from the ecology movement in disgust when they saw these leftists get involved, instead of fighting to eject them; they even forgot that Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican, was the foremost conservationist in the country. I think that conservatives are making the same mistake with global warming.

    Comments?

  • Spygirl, there is some global warming going on as evidenced by ice cap melts in the Arctic. But it is a natural occurrence that is unrelated to humans. The libs use it as a pretext to tax stuff. If we got rid of all manufacturing in the world, it wouldn't make a difference.

  • Spygirl,

    In the seventees, the big global climate issue was GLOBAL COOLING.

    I find it incredibly arrogant that some believe that we humans - in the "industrial eras" - can have such an impact on the climatology of this planet. In true terms, the time that we have been industrialized equates to a molecule in a molecule in a molecule of an atom in the atom of an atom of a grain of sand in a grain of sand in a grain of sand in a desert in a desert inside a desert full of deserts.

    yeah, the earth warms. It also cools. and warms. and cools. and warms.

    Do I think we need to preserve our natural resources, of course. Do I think we need to go back to living in caves and eat only plants? please.

  • And one more thing, Spygirl.

    The global warming issue IS a political one. It is quite possibly the only way the left can gain and maintain control of major economic entities and processes and subsequently usurp, obtain and maintain the one thing they aspire for" POWER. and I aint talking bout it in terms of energy.

  • Val, what you succinctly describe is government controlling the means of production. Where have we heard that before?

  • Honey

    It's funny that in Al Gore's documentary, if I remember correctly (it was so boring and pedantic I found it hard to sit through) one time he blames global warming for droughts and another he says the New York City will be under water because of the ice melts.
    One minute he is blaming humans for everything and saying we need many fewer of them or we're doomed. In another he weeps that humans will be drowned and that's a tragedy that must be avoided.
    Too funny.

  • Spygirl

    I honestly have not read the scientific papers linking human activity with global warming, if they're out there (my bad). I have read the papers on global warming itself and the data is undeniable.

    There are two things on this topic that I find very, very irritating. One is the outright Denial of some individuals that there is a considerable warming trend when the evidence is overwhelmingly to the contrary, and their "argument" is to simply ridicule the subject, or making fun of the people pointing to the phenomenon. The other is that, once again, the conservatives are walking away from the topic, leaving a vacuum of power, as it were, wherein the liberal hyenas rush in to fill. It seems sometimes that conservatives never learn.

    Now I'm going to state something that's probably going to get me into trouble in this blog, but it needs to be said. The Cubans in this blog should refrain from attacking or ridiculing Al Gore for the very simple fact that Gore was the only one in the Clinton administration who actively opposed the attack on Elian's family in Miami; since that time he has had nothing but contempt for Bill Clinton, whom one of the bloggers here wrote (before he was banned) that Clinton was a serial rapist. I know that the concept of gratitude is an alien one with many Cubans, who are addicted to stabbing each other in the back until we look like either pincushions or porcupines, but I still think that there should be some degree of gratitude to the man for this, if for no other reason.

  • cubabuzz

    Not as though this will change anyone's mind but nonetheless ...

    http://ams.allenpress.com/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1175%2F2008BAMS2370.1&ct=1

    Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society

    Article: pp. 1325–1337 | Abstract | PDF (4.13M)

    The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus

    Thomas C. Petersona, William M. Connolleyb, and John Fleckc

    a. NOAA/National Climatic Data Center, Asheville, North Carolina
    b. British Antarctic Survey, National Environment Research Council, Cambridge, United Kingdom
    c. Albuquerque Journal, Albuquerque, New Mexico

    Climate science as we know it today did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s. The integrated enterprise embodied in the Nobel Prizewinning work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change existed then as separate threads of research pursued by isolated groups of scientists. Atmospheric chemists and modelers grappled with the measurement of changes in carbon dioxide and atmospheric gases, and the changes in climate that might result. Meanwhile, geologists and paleoclimate researchers tried to understand when Earth slipped into and out of ice ages, and why. An enduring popular myth suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age, an observation frequently used by those who would undermine what climate scientists say today about the prospect of global warming. A review of the literature suggests that, on the contrary, greenhouse warming even then dominated scientists' thinking as being one of the most important forces shaping Earth's climate on human time scales. More importantly than showing the falsehood of the myth, this review describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.

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  • Alley Kat

    Spygirl: You said, "I know that the concept of gratitude is an alien one with many Cubans..."

    Frankly, Spygirl, I think that is a rather bitter and stretched out statement. I can honestly say that I do not always enjoy a room-full of Cubans, especially if I have a headache, but to say that they are foreign to gratitude..????
    I have lived in several very large cities full of immigrants from everywhere on the planet. And I have seen immigrants from other countries in Europe, and I have yet to see a people more proud and faithful to their host country than the Cuban people have been towards the USA. Perhaps the Cubans that you are thinking of are the newer generation who have been brought up under the mierdero system of Castro & Co. If that is your reference, then I can certainly understand your comments, but it really needs to be revised. Well, my opinion anyway...be it as it may.

    As far as the global warming, yes, I agree that there is plenty of scientific evidence that something warm is indeed happening. It's just hard to stomach the manipulation that stems from it's opportunistic use. Give 'em some slack. I also agree it's too sad that the conservatives have opted out completely from environmental issues so that they have left the camp open to "progressives".

    Mike: Will you please, please post the link VISIBLY when you have that website up and running?!?

  • Spygirl, so you what you're saying is to stop ridiculing Algore and his bogus theories, which will end up costing the country bilions If not trillions of (our tax) dollars, simply because he did one right thing.

    Gotcha. Perfect logic.

  • Spygirl, are you in college? Do you have an advanced degree?

  • Honey

    Spygirl,
    I am able to like someone because he did good things and dislike him because he is wrong on other things. Just consider my feelings about George Bush, a good man, perhaps a great man, yet one who did a lot of damage to the Republican brand.
    When Gore was Clinton's Vice President, he helped defend Nafta and did a good job. I doubt he would do that today but it pleased me then. And, though I have no memory of his doing it, I'm glad he was against the way Clinton and Reno handled the Gonzalez affair.
    But that doesn't mean I have to like all that he does.
    Most of my conservative friends are conservationists. We don't spoil the environment. Just consider Washington after the 12th of September and compare it to how liberals left Washington after Obama's inaugural. And those are the people who would teach me how to save the environment. Oy. Most conservatives love gardens and parks. We recycle. We try not to pollute. Science will fix human damage to the environment. One thing that will do no help is any scheme of "environmentalists" who are anti capitalist and anti humans. Those extremists don't deserve my respect or time. Or hypocrites. Gore walks the walk and, well you know..
    And I'm with Alley Kat, to say that Cubans do not know gratitude is ridiculous.
    George, I'm just guessing and we may never know even if she says anything on the subject, but I am betting that Spygirl is younger than twenty.

  • Honey

    Here is a typical example of what I was just saying. Hillary is SO concerned abut global warming that prisoners and slaves of a totalitarian state are of small concern to her and that is okay with the msm:

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton helped set the tone in February by swatting away a question about human rights abuses in China. Those issues, she said, “can’t interfere with the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis, and the security crisis.” Political prisoners, Tibetans, and religious minorities may have been dejected by this stony dismissal, but the Chinese government was delighted. “This type of realistic attitude could be followed by other Western leaders,” an official newspaper noted with satisfaction.

  • The irony is that Gore in the 1980's was deemed a conservative southern democrat. I remember supporting the embargo in the mid 1980's in a tv debate with Jessee Jackson who was running for pres. at the time-maybe 1988? But after 2000, he found he could make more money and fame by joining the ranks of the extreme left. So this tells me is that he is like the wind and has no backbone.

    During the Reagan years, he wanted to appear conservative. Now in the anti Bush years, he wants to side with moveon.org

  • Honey

    I also remember Gore debating Perot on Larry King while Perot was hot. Gore smashed Perot completely. That was around 1993. Debating Jackson should be a cakewalk on any subject, I would think.

  • Spygirl, here's an interview Val and Henry did with Algore a couple of years ago after he won the Academy Award for his movie A Convenient Pack of Lies.

  • Honey

    Hysterical, George. Who played Al Gore?

  • Gigi

    There's lot of people who have started out in life right and end up screwing up and losing their way. The Congress (and our streets) are full of examples. It's true that many years ago, algore was considered somewhat conservative; he was even pro-life. But things get in the way and for some people convictions lose their appeal as it becomes harder to stick to them and remain unscathed in politics. algore has become a fat slob of an opportunist, making zillions of dollas from his climate change scam, as he sits on the boards of several corps drawing checks without doing any work.

    It's good he stood up for Elian. He should have stayed on that path. Too bad he's gone off the deep end; this is not about him, it's about the impact his delusion is having on your wallet and mine.

  • Spygirl

    Cubabuzz

    Thanks for the reference. I just now got around to it.