Comments on: Honor both the victim and the killer http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/ an island on the net without a bearded dictator Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:11:39 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: George Moneo http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-103508 George Moneo Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:27:48 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=28717#comment-103508 "The kingdom of God on Earth." Sounds like it's right out of an Obama rally... "The kingdom of God on Earth." Sounds like it's right out of an Obama rally...

]]> By: Val Prieto http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-103506 Val Prieto Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:20:54 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=28717#comment-103506 Did your deluded uncle rat on the rest of the family and get them in "trouble?" Where is your deluded uncle now? Did your deluded uncle rat on the rest of the family and get them in "trouble?" Where is your deluded uncle now?

]]> By: theCardinal http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-103504 theCardinal Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:50:44 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=28717#comment-103504 There isn't a family of Cubans that didn't have at least one member that was for Fidel at one point or another. And for all of us to claim that every single one of our parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins knew the truth from the get go is either delusional or lying. I know I had an uncle that believed and while he never fought or killed he stayed behind and died shortly thereafter. He literally thought that the idea of communism was bringing the kingdom of God to earth. I have no problem recognizing my deluded uncle and brave one who fought at Bay of Pigs. There isn't a family of Cubans that didn't have at least one member that was for Fidel at one point or another. And for all of us to claim that every single one of our parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins knew the truth from the get go is either delusional or lying. I know I had an uncle that believed and while he never fought or killed he stayed behind and died shortly thereafter. He literally thought that the idea of communism was bringing the kingdom of God to earth. I have no problem recognizing my deluded uncle and brave one who fought at Bay of Pigs.

]]> By: Gigi http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-103502 Gigi Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:46:21 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=28717#comment-103502 Dittos. It occurs to me that this pseudo-repentant little piece is another attempt to nail the embargo's coffin. "Look at me, I was a commie, but I've seen the light; now that I've got credibility, can we talk now and lift this thing?" FTA: "Longing for Cuba has been a constant in my life... I got to know Middle America first-hand. Well before I understood the full gamut of its ignominy, segregation shocked me." Oh, pluheeeze -- what condescending BS: she can't help but take a swipe at the US. It's ironic she underlines her "shock" in the same paragraph she mentions her black nanny [Tata] back in Cuba. NOT that there's anything wrong with a black nanny, or a white/purple/blue or yellow nanny, but let's get real: who in the world really believes that in the privileged world of the PStable household Tata was anything other than a second class citizen? I'm SO sick of the leftist drivel and the double standard and the cheap shots; good spies can talk out of both sides of their mouths, I imagine. Nice try, PStable, but you've been wearing your leopard spots all your life, and you don't persuade me. Not ever. Dittos. It occurs to me that this pseudo-repentant little piece is another attempt to nail the embargo's coffin. "Look at me, I was a commie, but I've seen the light; now that I've got credibility, can we talk now and lift this thing?"

FTA: "Longing for Cuba has been a constant in my life... I got to know Middle America first-hand. Well before I understood the full gamut of its ignominy, segregation shocked me." Oh, pluheeeze -- what condescending BS: she can't help but take a swipe at the US. It's ironic she underlines her "shock" in the same paragraph she mentions her black nanny [Tata] back in Cuba.

NOT that there's anything wrong with a black nanny, or a white/purple/blue or yellow nanny, but let's get real: who in the world really believes that in the privileged world of the PStable household Tata was anything other than a second class citizen?

I'm SO sick of the leftist drivel and the double standard and the cheap shots; good spies can talk out of both sides of their mouths, I imagine. Nice try, PStable, but you've been wearing your leopard spots all your life, and you don't persuade me. Not ever.

]]> By: asombra http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-103501 asombra Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:33:59 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=28717#comment-103501 It's amazing how those who have their hands seriously dirty, if not bloody, are so pro-forgiveness and pro-reconciliation NOW, after the damage is done, much of which can never be undone or "fixed." It's essentially wanting to have your cake and eat it, too--wanting to have it both ways. Sorry, but I DON'T think so. And please, if you want to forgive whomever for whatever, fine, that's your affair, but don't even think of telling anybody else what they need to do or how they should feel, because that's NOT your business or decision. The decision to forgive or not rests ONLY with the person wronged, nobody else, especially not anybody implicated in the wrongdoing. It is beyond shameless, beyond disgusting for anyone as tainted as Perez-Stable to dare play Dalai Lama or Ghandi and presume to tell anybody to "forgive and forget." It's essentially obscene. It's incredible that, although covered in shit, she still found eminently "respectable" enablers like FIU and the Herald--both of which I hold in contempt as a result. It's amazing how those who have their hands seriously dirty, if not bloody, are so pro-forgiveness and pro-reconciliation NOW, after the damage is done, much of which can never be undone or "fixed." It's essentially wanting to have your cake and eat it, too--wanting to have it both ways. Sorry, but I DON'T think so. And please, if you want to forgive whomever for whatever, fine, that's your affair, but don't even think of telling anybody else what they need to do or how they should feel, because that's NOT your business or decision. The decision to forgive or not rests ONLY with the person wronged, nobody else, especially not anybody implicated in the wrongdoing. It is beyond shameless, beyond disgusting for anyone as tainted as Perez-Stable to dare play Dalai Lama or Ghandi and presume to tell anybody to "forgive and forget." It's essentially obscene. It's incredible that, although covered in shit, she still found eminently "respectable" enablers like FIU and the Herald--both of which I hold in contempt as a result.

]]> By: Robert Molleda http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-103498 Robert Molleda Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:47:29 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=28717#comment-103498 Perez-Stable appears to be making a tenuous assumption that those who fought on the side of the regime were good people who sincerely believed in their ideology and were just following orders. That may be true in some cases, but it's not a good enough reason to blanket the whole cause with it. She also trumpets the classic leftist line that only through dialogue and meeting in the middle can we resolve the Cuba issue. If we're talking about two sides genuinely interested in doing the RIGHT thing, absolutely. But she and everyone else knows that's not the case here. Never has been, so why appease them now? Perez-Stable appears to be making a tenuous assumption that those who fought on the side of the regime were good people who sincerely believed in their ideology and were just following orders. That may be true in some cases, but it's not a good enough reason to blanket the whole cause with it. She also trumpets the classic leftist line that only through dialogue and meeting in the middle can we resolve the Cuba issue. If we're talking about two sides genuinely interested in doing the RIGHT thing, absolutely. But she and everyone else knows that's not the case here. Never has been, so why appease them now?

]]> By: theCardinal http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-103495 theCardinal Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:18:35 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=28717#comment-103495 i have many of the same qualms about honoring both sides. I understand that this is what they did in South Africa and it kind of worked there but in other places where reconciliation committees have been tried they have been nowhere as successful. I just don't see it working with Cubans, we arent exactly a live and let live type people. i have many of the same qualms about honoring both sides. I understand that this is what they did in South Africa and it kind of worked there but in other places where reconciliation committees have been tried they have been nowhere as successful. I just don't see it working with Cubans, we arent exactly a live and let live type people.

]]> By: Gigi http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-103489 Gigi Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:44:03 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=28717#comment-103489 If you believe her story, call me -- got some condos out in the Everglades you might be interested in. Not only is she slimy, she's also insulting to our collective intelligence. This is typical leftist, condescending PR, & snow-job type strategy designed to keep her activities under wraps but intact, now that so much of her cover has been blown. This "we-did-it-in-good-conscience" excuse is SO, SO retro. It didn't work at Nuremberg, and it's not gonna work here either. If you believe her story, call me -- got some condos out in the Everglades you might be interested in.

Not only is she slimy, she's also insulting to our collective intelligence. This is typical leftist, condescending PR, & snow-job type strategy designed to keep her activities under wraps but intact, now that so much of her cover has been blown.

This "we-did-it-in-good-conscience" excuse is SO, SO retro. It didn't work at Nuremberg, and it's not gonna work here either.

]]> By: asombra http://babalublog.com/2009/10/honor-both-the-killer-and-the-victim/comment-page-1/#comment-103488 asombra Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:06:50 +0000 http://babalublog.com/?p=28717#comment-103488 I won't even begin to consider buying what Perez-Stable is trying to sell. It reeks. I reject her utterly as a Cuba analyst, and I have no respect for anyone who would officially employ her as such. The fact the Miami Herald chose to do so is not only disreputable and suspect but highly insulting. That alone would make me reject the Herald, though there have been numerous other reasons, and I pulled the plug on it long ago. In my eyes, this woman is at best disgraceful. I won't even begin to consider buying what Perez-Stable is trying to sell. It reeks. I reject her utterly as a Cuba analyst, and I have no respect for anyone who would officially employ her as such. The fact the Miami Herald chose to do so is not only disreputable and suspect but highly insulting. That alone would make me reject the Herald, though there have been numerous other reasons, and I pulled the plug on it long ago. In my eyes, this woman is at best disgraceful.

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