Yes, and Barzini Sent beautiful flowers to Don Corleone’s Funeral
In fact, Camilo, now commemorated in the grand style by his murderers, had it coming big time--as much as Che did.
Like his brother, Osmany and most of his Red Spanish family, Camilo Cienfuegos was a hard-core Stalinist. Don't let his little "simpatico" smile fool ya. He ordered many firing squad murders himself
Most notoriously, he schemed with Che Guevara to torture and murder the investigator/scholar Jose Castano (who had earlier pegged Camilo as a Communist) and who even Fidel was trying to spare from the firing squad!
Please find me the accounts from those "investigative, edgy, hard-hitting and gallant crusaders for the truth"( as Columbia Journalism school hails its students) who have even TOUCHED this issue!
Now imagine if Batista had schemed to murder Santiaguito Rey!
Those media and "scholarly Cuba Experts" would be ALL OVER IT!!
PBS and the History Channel and HBO would have run TEN specials each!--all showcasing Marifeli and Julia Sweig....
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I've always been puzzled by the view of many exiles towards Camilo - there seems to be this under current that he was one of the "true" patriots with Matos, who was then murdered by Fidel.
I've met many very anti-Fidel & anti-Che exiles who admire Camilo and was always puzzled by it.
Then again, I've also met anti-Fidel exiles who were pro-Che ... so who the hell knows anymore.
Humberto, what do you believe happened in terms of Camilos death. ???
I've heard every rumor from shot down on purpose, shot down on accident, shot by Che, shot by Raul, an actual accident etc etc
nothing ideologial, you 'unnertan. Strickly personal. There's only room for one alpha male: (and nowadays it's probably Raul!)
On the flight back to Havana after he dutifully arrested Matos, Camilo Cienfuegos disappeared without a trace. His plane crashed and vanished, said the authorities, though the evening had excellent weather according to all records. The Castro brothers made a big show of a search and rescue but nothing turned up. To many, including Huber Matos, Camilo's death seemed much too convenient. To this day Matos (along with most Cuban-exiles) blame Fidel and Raul for Camilo's death.
Cienfuegos was too obviously their competitor for leadership. Interestingly, two of Camilo's loyal lieutenants died in "accidents" within days of their commander's disappearance. The head of Camaguey's small airport, from where Camilo had taken off, was also suspicious and was starting to ask questions about the rescue effort. Two weeks after Camilo's disappearance, he was found with a bullet through his head. His death was ruled a "suicide." Camilo Cienfuegos was far from the last Fidelista Comandante to run afoul of Fidel's megalomania.
http://97.74.65.51/Printable.aspx?ArtId=7971
Humberto, why wouldn't Fidel have had Camilo arrest Matos and have him take Matos on the plane with him and "kill 2 birds with one stone"? by eliminating both of them in an "accident"?
I also read that Che was the one who actually argued for sparing Matos, while Fidel and others wanted him executed? The squabbles of the alpha-males has alot of tangles.
Do you think Che bought the official "accident" story, or do you think he knew about the hit?
Che and his chum Raul wanted Matos fusilado. But Che was so astoundingly stupid he probably bought the Camilo "accident" thing.
Guevara-especially at that time--was slavish towards Fidel's every whim. No Lone Ranger ever had such a faithful (and stupid) Tonto.
Okay so, speaking of Che, today's Prickly City cartoon (Oct 30) disses Che shirts AND Mao Handbags:
http://comics.com/prickly_city
You are right Humberto,
This is what I know for certain:
My father had a coworker friend in Cuba that was very good friend with both Osmani and Camilo Cienfuegos (specially Osmani) and that friend told my father on several occasions that both Camilo and Osmani were commies, no doubt about it.
I don’t understand why some people speculate that Camilo Cienfuegos wasn’t communist.
My feeling is that Fidel eliminated Camilo because he was more popular than him and a shadow to his image. We know how much Fidel Castro dislikes having someone upstage him. Look at him today, cagalitroso through a bag, drooling and turned into shit by age and disease and still is trying to run the show behind the scenes.
God knows what really happened to Camilo, as there have been way too many rumors over the years regarding this topic. It is probably the biggest mystery regarding the early months of the Castro “Rebolution” thought enough evidence has leaked through the years that points to the most likely scenario of an insider elimination job on Camilo.
There's always three sides to a story: Yours, Theirs, and the truth. I'm neither for or against Camilo Cienfuegos. Still I'm getting pretty fucking irritated how this idol worship keeps springing up on the island, or any communist, totalitarian regime.
Humberto:
Excellent insight
so Camilo is to Castro
as
Trotsky is to Stalin
interesting
thank you ...
correction (darn my dislexia):
Excellent insight
so Camilo was to Castro
as
Trotsky was to Stalin
interesting
thank you ...
Mojito. in Oct. 1959, Che (unlike Camilo) remained useful to Castro.
Che's utility to Castroism started fading after his spectacular gig as Cuba';s Minister of Industries and collapsed after the incurable imbecile verbally ripped into Cuba's sugar-daddies, the Soviets, in 1964.
"You don't bite the hand that feeds you, MORON!" Fidel musta had it with the Argentine mental-defective by then.