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realclearworld

Oye mi canto hipocresia…

Couldnt have said it better myself, Nick on the E$tefan/Obama love fe$t:

In her introductory remarks at yesterday’s fundraiser, Gloria Estefan said this:

The beauty of this amazing nation is that anything is possible! Even hosting a very political evening to get the “ear” of my President when I am politically non-affiliated but the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. put it succinctly when he said “We may have all come on different ships but we’re in the same boat now!”

When I think of “anything being possible” in America, being able to talk to the president because he asked me to raise his political party a bunch of money isn’t exactly what comes to mind. And “politically non-affiliated”? Really? Again, I’m no political analyst, but unless you also host an RNC fundraiser, organizing a DNC one is about as politically-affiliated as you can get.

We should all defend the Estefans’ right to put their money and their time wherever they want. But no matter where you stand on domestic politics, it’s pretty clear they’ve chosen to put that time and money in the most divisive place possible. That’s not the sort of thinking that’ll make people want them leading the Cuban exile community in any more marches.

Read the whole thing.

36 comments to Oye mi canto hipocresia…

  • Larry Daley

    Off topic but important

    the global warming nonsense is now in the senate

    using "data by proclamation"

    Even the present volcanic eruption in Iceland may well decrease real temperatures this summer in Europe

  • Somebody on my facebook page called them the "ESTAFAns".

  • Felixthe3rd

    The Estefan's are stupid because they want Cuba to be free and for it to happen under Obama, the problem is that the fundraiser was for the whole democrat party which is screwing up this country; You can't expect to save a country when your country is being destroyed! It's like refugees from the soviet union asking Hitler to free the USSR.

  • Mr. Mojito

    Gloria is a shameless fraud - worst than Judas as she isn't even repentful. All the money she made, will never buy back her soul.

  • Larry Daley

    BTW there was a Tea Party demonstration yesterday in Corvallis.

    This is extraordinary give that this place is extremely liberal

    Gloria has backed the wrong horse

  • FreedomForCuba

    "We should all defend the Estefans’ right to put their money and their time wherever they want. But no matter where you stand on domestic politics, it’s pretty clear they’ve chosen to put that time and money in the most divisive place possible. That’s not the sort of thinking that’ll make people want them leading the Cuban exile community in any more marches."

    "You can't expect to save a country when your country is being destroyed! It's like refugees from the soviet union asking Hitler to free the USSR."

    Val and Felix,

    You both nailed it...

  • FreedomForCuba

    "Gloria has backed the wrong horse"

    Absolutely Larry,

    What happened to the Estefans is prime example that spending too much time mingling with the Hollywood idiots, the liberal elite and the kool-aid drinkers becomes a contagious disease that is extremely hazardous to your mental health because it greatly reduces your ability to reason.

    to put it simply the Estefans have forgotten where they came from and instead have adopted the liberal elite and the kool-aid drinkers mantra when they should know better not to because of their lifetime experiences.

    Oh well, we live in these insane times than no longer make sense, and people's stupidity is running rampand...

  • FreedomForCuba

    "Gloria has backed the wrong horse"

    Absolutely Larry,

    What happened to the Estefans is prime example that spending too much time mingling with the Hollywood idiots, the liberal elite and the kool-aid drinkers becomes a contagious disease that is extremely hazardous to your mental health because it greatly reduces your ability to reason.

    To put it simply, the Estefans have forgotten where they came from and instead have adopted the liberal elite and the kool-aid drinkers mantra when they should know better not to because of their lifetime experiences.

    Oh well, I guess we live in these insane times than no longer make sense...

  • firefly

    The estefans (IMHO they now belong to the group of lower case individuals) may claim to be "politically non-affiliated" but they sure are ideologically affiliated to Obama and the DemocRats. I respect their right to entertain whoever they want in their home, and I really don't give a rat's ass what political affiliation they have. However, I also have the right to voice my own opinion.

    By the way, I have a friend who knows someone that was in attendance at the estefan's Ass Kissing dinner. She's trying to get information of the event to pass on to me.

  • FreedomForCuba

    "may claim to be "politically non-affiliated" but they sure are ideologically affiliated to Obama and the DemocRats. "

    firefly,

    Your statement above accurately describes the Estefans hyprocity.

  • Lourdes54

    Que par de hipócritas. They've gone and drunk the Kool Aid. Buh, bye.

  • FreedomForCuba

    firefly,

    Please update us ASAP with the juicy gossip regarding the Ass-Kissing dinner. I'm sure it'll be very interesting to learn what took place.

  • It seems the Estefans are as arrogant as their dinner guest if they believe that they can influence him and U.S. policy toward Cuba. It's obvious to anyone who has been paying attention that this president does whatever he wants and only listens to his Chicago cronies.

    Excuse me, but "politically non-affiliated" my ass.

  • C.E. Martinez

    Keith Richards who actually has muscical talent said it best "MSM was a lounge act that got lucky"..and he's on drugs! I saw Miami S**t Machine doing a party when I was a kid, back then they had two singers Gloria and some other woman and even when I was 9 I thought they sucked. And I'm not saying that because they support Obama, I listen to death metal and extreme music anyways so I never liked their music but I am glad the 25 year nightmare is finally over.

  • Lori G.

    I had not opined anywhere on this Estefan thing, then last night while flipping channels, I saw that they were airing photographs of the event (local spanish television). They showed Gloria wearing a white dress, next to the POTUS, while he was bending over a table of pictures of the attack on the Ladies in White, there were also pictures of OZT.

    Now, I think they actually bent over to raise money for the DNC, just to have POTUS' ear for five minutes and talk to him regarding the Cuban cause. I now agree with Marta. They are as arrogant as POTUS! They really believe that they can change his mind or make him understand the Cuban situation because they are celebs.

    I don't think he gives a hoot what happens to Cuba, neither he nor Mrs Clinton do. I believe they would go as far as to aid that regime to stay in power, under the table, of course, in order to avoid any destabalizing. If they can't get Congres to lift the embargo, they will help the regime out any other way they can. Whatever it takes to keep the Cubans in check.

    Yes, I know they had dinners with Clinton & W. but I don't remember them hosting a fund raiser dinner for either party at the time, maybe I missed that news article. I really do believe they were told, "You want POTUS in your house for dinner?, Make it a fundraising event, and he'll go" and they are agreed. Would I have done the same? HELL NO!! Instead I'd try to host who I believed would be the next president, fund raise for his/her campaign, and tell them what 'oclock was striking regarding Cuba.

  • David Sandoval

    It pains me SO MUCH to see our house divided against itself. The Estefans are the most famous, most visible, most important anti-castro voices in the US mainstream. How can you quibble over stupid stuff like this instead of give them your resounding support? Yes, you may have things you disagree with them on, but for example, Val disagrees with Yoani on the embargo, others disagree on the travel ban, etc. Why are we tearing down one another (the same way Ana Menendez tears down our community), turning against the most prominent anti-castro person in the US today? How can we do anything but give her our resounding support? Look at the big picture, and focus on our common ground: that we are all in favor of greater freedoms in Cuba. Does it mean nothing that the Estefans are showing pics of the Damas to Obama?

    A house divided against itself cannot stand. Give the Estefans your support because in the end, we should all be fighting for greater freedom on the island, NOT AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. It's SO PAINFUL for me to see this.

    Or if you don't support them, at least don't go and destroy our own community from within. Don't beat up on the biggest and best public voice we have. Focus that energy on castro and his goons, not one of our own. And democrat or republican, she is one of our own, people. She is on our side in the anti-castro cause.

  • FreedomForCuba

    Sorry David, but I'm thru with the Estefans.

    I’ll somewhat echo the feelings that Val wrote sometime ago.

    Today I’m a Cuban-American that has not forgotten about the land that he was born but, first and foremost I love America more than anything and detest anyone trying to destroy the very fabric that this great nation was built upon by their founding fathers.

    As much as I love Cuba, I’ll never ally myself with anyone trying to destroy America (in this case Barack Hussein Obama).

    I’m not willing to pay the price that to save Cuba I have to ally with a Marxist anti-American bullshit artist and a political party bent on destroying America. No way sir, I won’t fall for that trap as the Estefans have.

    David remember my words, after all is said and done Barack Hussein Obama will not help liberate Cuba from the Castro brothers tyranny, instead his actions will delay Cuba’s freedom and the Estefans will play the role of useful idiots to Barack Hussein Obama.

  • David Sandoval

    FFC, I understand that you disagree with Obama and don't support the Estefans' move to hold the fundraiser.

    My complaint is that our community is more interested in bickering and in-fighting rather than finding our common ground.

    We have a very prominent Cuban-American showing pictures of the Damas de Blanco, and leading huge protest marches, all for the cause of Freedom for Cuba, which is your username! Why is that not the focus? Why are they getting so much criticism, and so little support?

    I think we need to stop focusing on the things that divide us as a community, and focus on the things that we have in common -- especially the cause of liberty in Cuba, which the Estefans undoubtedly support, regardless of their past actions that many have disliked.

    In the end, we are all in the same boat together, and if we start fighting each other instead of rowing, we're going to flip the boat over and drown instead of making it home.

  • FreedomForCuba

    David,

    One thing that upsets me is when I write very clearly (as I did to you) explaining my reasons what I reject the Estefans and then you come back insisting that I should follow them while ignoring my points.

    You want to follow the Estefans playing the useful idiot role to Obama and the Democrats and that’s your free choice and whether I like it or not I must respect your decision. But I already explained you very clearly why I won’t and never will.

    And it is not about bickering as you said.

    It is about been accomplice by raising money for a President and a political party that is turning America on the path to Socialist destruction.

    If you don't see it that way it is your problem, not mine.

    Let me tell you for the last time, I’ll never follow or support anyone who engages in that practice no matter their noble intentions.

    Cuba is already lost to Communism/Socialism. I certainly don’t want to loose America to this ideology now.

    For the last time, the Estefans are going to accomplish nothing, absolutely nothing by showing pictures of Damas de Blanco and their protest to President Obama.

    And yes, I want Cuba Free, but never, ever at the price of loosing America.

    Please don’t make me repeat it again,

    Thanks.

  • Honey

    This all reminds me of those who say we are all Americans and should support our president because he is our leader. The very people who say that are the ones who did all they could to bury Bush.

    Obama is making it clear every day that he is hellbent on taking away personal liberty and putting more power into the federal government's hands. Anyone who participates in a fund raiser for this administration is not helping my country. All the good intentions in the world, all the sideline good things like having the ear of the president, are not going to bring good results. Because this president will smile and look smooth and love the support, but it will not deter him from his course of moving us to the left.
    To raise money for these people is a betrayal of those who are fighting to get our country back and, yes, to move Cuba toward liberty.
    I can't see it any other way.

  • FreedomForCuba

    Honey,

    Extremely clearly stated.

    Deep inside I harbor this strange feeling wondering about the hidden agenda and desires of these types of Cubans-Americans; if they want Cuba free so they can return to live back in the island and could care less what would happen to the USA in the process.

    If that is the case, I’m not one of those Cuban-Americans and won't play their game.

  • David Sandoval

    Well this "type" of Cuban-American is one who loves this country just as much as Cuba -- although I was born here and have never been on the island. So I'm not this "type" you speak of.

    Of course I care about this country. But you can't compare the changes that Obama is making to the oppressiveness of Cuba. I don't think we're really in danger of becoming a police state under Obama.

    So my concern is not that you criticize the Estefans; that's fine. No two people with a brain of their own are going to agree on everything.

    But my complaint is that 90% of the things I have been hearing from Cuban-Americans about Gloria is putting her down. And I hear very little praise, relatively speaking. It's like we're more concerned about in-fighting and putting her down. We expend more energy putting her down than lifting her up.

  • David Sandoval

    And PS, I have no "hidden agenda;" if you care to know my agenda, here it is:

    Greater social, economic, and political freedoms for the people of Cuba (and actually everywhere in the world).

    To uphold the constitution of the United States, which I am sworn to do.

    To spread music with a positive and/or emotional message and make people dance, smile, cry.

    Ya tu sabes.

  • Mr. Mojito

    51 years of betrayal is enough ... YA BASTA !!!

    Gloria can go to hell.

  • "I don't think we're really in danger of becoming a police state under Obama." Look again...

  • Dave: I'm with you. It's not about supporting Obama, it's about supporting the Estefans in our common fight for freedom in Cuba.

    Indeed, we can be our very own worst enemies.

  • Honey

    George, I'm with you.

    Robert Molleda, I want you to read Sharansky's The Case For Democracy. I see nothing good that can come from fund raising for these guys.

  • Honey: I don't like the fundraising aspect of this any more than you do. But at what point did we drop all sense of reason and categorically dump the Estefans into the "traitor" category? As Dave mentioned (as I have before as well), the Estefans are fair game for criticism, but not for the blatant demonizing that's mostly been the case here since this issue came up. Can't we walk and chew gum at the same time? Thus, I feel we can justly criticize their particular approach with the fundraiser while still consider them to be on the side of freedom and human rights in Cuba.

  • FreedomForCuba

    "Well this "type" of Cuban-American is one who loves this country just as much as Cuba -- although I was born here and have never been on the island. So I'm not this "type" you speak of."

    I believe you David,

    My post to Honey in this area really wasn't really aimed at you (even thought it may have looked to you that way). I was more expressing my suspicions about others in South Florida.

    Regarding Obama, I don’t agree with anything Obama is doing to America these days. I hope I make that point very clear to you.

    I don’t like Marxist/Socialism in any flavor, shape or form, that simple and clear, period.

    Even if Obama is taking America on a different Marxist/Socialist path that is much milder than what Castro did with Cuba I still reject it with all the strength of body and soul.

    So please don't bring to me the differences between Obama and the Castro brothers because I could care less as I focus on the similarities for the reasons stated above.

    Regarding the Estefans, they’re not and never will be my leaders and I’ll never follow or support them again on anything they’ll do in this town.

    You want to follow them is your free choice but you cannot and will not try to force me and others on this blog into following the Estefans due to the reasons I explained in my previous posts.

    One last thing, I bet you that if the Estefans would have held the march today instead of before making the announcement for the dinner with Obama the same attendance levels would have been smaller (probably much smaller).

    The Estefans took the mask-off with their actions and earned all the scorn as a result.

    Like Mr. Mojito said,

    51 years of betrayal is enough ... YA BASTA !!!

    Gloria can go to hell.

  • FreedomForCuba

    "Indeed, we can be our very own worst enemies."

    Here we go again Robert,

    We are our worst enemy when we continue supporting the one political party has a track record of betraying the Cuban-Americans at every instance since 1961.

    1. Bay of Pigs.
    2. Mariel boatlif.
    3. The Havana disturbances in 1994.
    4. Elian Gonzalez

    If you think that a Marxist anti-American bullshit artist like Obama is going to help liberate Cuba from another Marxist/Stalinist you’re living in a fantasy world.

  • FreedomForCuba

    "it's about supporting the Estefans in our common fight for freedom in Cuba."

    Sorry, but the path chosen the Estefans will never get my support.

    Why? Because if one issue I'm one hundred percent certain is that the path the Estefans have chosen will never free Cuba from the Castro brothers but it could help a Marxist anti-American bullshit artist and his party stay in power in America (and we all know what the consequences of that event will be).

    No way, I won’t play that game...

  • Honey

    Robert,
    I mostly deal in ideas and not name calling.
    A person can do many good things and I can be happy about those things. But a person can do a damaging thing and I will not like that.
    Bush is a good man, and in some ways I believe a great man. But his acceptance of campaign finance reform, his pushing of dangerous immigration reform, his drug bill and allowing lots of spending did much to pave the way for the mess we are in now. so I can admire him for his character and some of his actions, but it doesn't stop me from being upset by the wrong things he has done.

    I will not weigh in on the Estefans. All I'll say is remember Mrs. O'Leary's cow.

    What I am concerned about now is stopping this dangerous administration as much as we are able to. And someone who helps them make money and gives them a good face is not part of my energy right now.

  • FreedomForCuba

    "What I am concerned about now is stopping this dangerous administration as much as we are able to. And someone who helps them make money and gives them a good face is not part of my energy right now."

    Ditto...

  • I mostly deal in ideas and not name calling.
    A person can do many good things and I can be happy about those things. But a person can do a damaging thing and I will not like that.
    Bush is a good man, and in some ways I believe a great man. But his acceptance of campaign finance reform, his pushing of dangerous immigration reform, his drug bill and allowing lots of spending did much to pave the way for the mess we are in now. so I can admire him for his character and some of his actions, but it doesn't stop me from being upset by the wrong things he has done.

    Agreed. As far as stopping Obama, there are many good ways we can, and will, do this. Not directed at you, Honey, but calling Gloria Estefan a traitor or a Marxist is a distraction which does nothing to defeat this administration's policies.

  • FreedomForCuba

    "calling Gloria Estefan a traitor or a Marxist"

    Well, if the shoe fits...

    Robert,

    Honestly I don’t know what to tell you regarding the Estefans anymore other of what I perceive is the obvious.

    The fact that Emilio voted for Obama (and Gloria probably did too) plus I have been reading in the media for years that they spend much time mingling with liberals from the entertaining industry adds to my suspicions.

    To me it is the classic and obvious case of tell me who you’re with and I tell you who you are.

    Plus all the duplicity that we have seen come from the Estefans lately, that they’re apolitical but then went and staged this fundraiser event. Sorry, but I just don’t buy it.

    The writing is clearly on the wall and I suspect the Estefans have gone thru a political metamorphosis and now are coming out of the liberal closet they hid for years. They finally taking the mask off.

    I may give them the benefit of the doubt and accept that they sincerely wish Cuba’s freedom from the Castro tyranny on one hand, but the evidence clearly points to the fact that they have also clearly embraced the Marxist/Socialist agenda of the Democratic Party in the USA.

    Because this evidence is becoming so obvious to me and the many in our community I still hold on to my beliefs and will never ever support them again.

  • Ecosse81251

    1. Sleeping With Dogs, One can Expect to Get Fleas.
    2. The reference to MLK must be a joke - Pres. Obama is NOT about Martin, He is more about the Rev. Wright, or the Rev. Al.

    -S-