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Andy Garcia Responds to Babalu Post

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"Humberto, you IGNORANT SL*T!!!"

(But seriously, folks. Mr Garcia took time to seriously address the issue of a recent Babalu post):

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Dear Mr. Fontova,

In the past I have read several of your articles which I have found to be very insightful.
But recently, a friend of mine pointed out an article you wrote in BabaluBlog. I was shocked to see that your are basing your article on other articles, and misinformation, and reporting them as the truth. So I will clarify, as I am the co-writer and director of the film you mentioned,
“Hemingway and Fuentes”.

First your headline asks, “Did I fall for Castro Propaganda?” This is ludicrous. Is that supposed to incite people to read the misinformation that follows? Anyone that knows me will read that and immediately discredit it. Second you and those in the previous articles you are sighting are making reference to Anselmo Hernandez and Gregorio Fuentes and who was the real inspiration for Santiago in Hemingway’s ‘The Old Man And The Sea’, and that I have gotten it wrong. How can you assume I have gotten it wrong? How can you pass judgement on a film you have not seen, or a screenplay that you have not read? You are making assumptions that happened to be inaccurate. As were the previous blogs you used as a source.

I will clarify for the last time - Anselmo Hernandez is a character in my film, and is Hemingway’s inspiration for Santiago (The Old Man) and that is how he is portrayed. Gregorio Fuentes was the captain of the Pilar, Hemingway’s fishing yacht, for the last 20 years of Hemingway’s life
and that is how he is portrayed.

The Internet is filled with an abundance of false information and quotes that do not belong to me.
If you would have reached out to me to write an article about it I would have granted you the time to discuss it out of respect for your work.

Sincerely,
Andy Garcia
Los Angeles, Ca.
6/24/13

UPDATE: OK folks, since it appears that many "commenters" don't bother to read the original post or the documenting links, I'm reluctantly putting this here:

I know full-well that the internet is full of "false information" (just read Wikipedia on ME!) But my inference of Fuentes as "inspiration" did not issue from two-bit blogs or even from Wiki. They are repeated everyplace from Spain's ABC newspaper to The Hollywood Reporter, from Fox News Latino to HispanicBusiness, From IMDb to...in brief EVERYPLACE the movie is mentioned!--this has been going on for close to three years and I never found an official rebuttal. Still I held off from posting. Then last week the clincher when ANDY GARCIA HIMSELF seemingly CONFIRMED IT TO THE ATLANTA JOURNAL CONSTITUTION:

"I’ve written a movie that I’m going to be directing called “Hemingway & FUENTES,” ABOUT Ernest Hemingway’s RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FISHERMAN WHO INSPIRED “The Old Man and the Sea.” Anthony Hopkins will be playing Hemingway (opposite Garcia as Fuentes). It’s one of those stories that I feel compelled to tell. You can’t sit around hoping someone else will think of it and write it and call me to do it. Sometimes, when you have something to say, you just have to speak up for yourself."

Perhaps there's a different way to interpret this--but on top of the three year media barrage..?

And I didn't accuse Mr Garcia off falling for Castro propaganda I questioned (based on all the above) if he might have had.

41 comments to Andy Garcia Responds to Babalu Post

  • antonio2009

    Hum-Boy-Dah, Como decían en Cuba: Te cogiste las nalgas con la puerta.

  • To wit: "I’ve written a movie that I’m going to be directing called “Hemingway & FUENTES,” ABOUT Ernest Hemingway’s RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FISHERMAN WHO INSPIRED “The Old Man and the Sea.” Anthony Hopkins will be playing Hemingway (opposite Garcia as FUENTES.)" (Andy Garcia, June 13, 2013)..(What's one to infer from reading this???)

    "Anselmo Hernandez is a character in my film, and is Hemingway’s inspiration for Santiago (The Old Man) and that is how he is portrayed." (Andy Garcia, June 24, 2013)

    I defy anyone to find ANY mention of Anselmo Hernandez ANYWHERE in ANY mention of this movie (which was announced 3 years ago) prior to this post. Zoe Valdez and Pedro Pablo Arencibia also failed. Whereas Fuentes is mentioned in EVERY article as the "inspiration," including in the official Movie Database. Andy Garcia's people better get cracking on correcting three years of "errors," by every single outlet that has reported on this movie.

  • Jorge Ponce

    Andy Garcia is a respectable Cuban-American who has made a difference by exposing the lies propagated by the Cuban Government propaganda machine, and who has never lost hope of seeing democracy restored to his homeland. Rather than making assumptions about his motives, he deserves our heartfelt thanks.

  • A reminder: When critics were unanimously trashing Andy Garcia's The Lost City for its "historical inaccuracy," one author went to bat for Andy Garcia and his movie:

    http://www.humanevents.com/2006/05/05/movie-critics-aghast-at-andy-garcias-the-lost-city/

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=4625

    Andy Garcia's The Lost City again gets favorable treatment in a CRACKERJACK(!!!) and BLOCKBUSTER(!!!)forthcoming book:

    http://babalublog.com/2013/05/16/babalu-booth-exclusive-at-cuba-nostalgia/

  • Honey

    Humberto, I do agree with one thing Garcia said. It might have been better to ask him first before you wrote your piece for babalu.
    It is also not a good thing to review something you have not seen. Why would Garcia, who has been a consistent friend suddenly become another propagandist for the Castros? So far I am willing to give Garcia some credibility until he disappoints.

  • Honey, I didn't "review" anything. I simply asked about ONE aspect of the planned movie. Obviously Garcia would not KNOWINGLY propagandize for Castro, for crying out loud. That's the whole point. Neither would many of the people mentioned in my books and articles--if they knew it was propaganda. I've written that even Mark Steyn has fallen for Castro propaganda! That's Castro's "genius." That's what I try to "expose" in most of my writings.

    The post had a prominent question mark. I asked a question in response to EVERY SINGLE THING (three years worth) written bout the forthcoming movie, including a recent statement by Garcia HIMSELF. As mentioned, Zoe Valdes and Pedro Pablo Arencibia reviewed the same writings regarding the forthcoming movie--and the IDENTICAL issue struck them immediately.

  • asombra

    "Papa" was a detestable old drunk, dysfunctional to the core, and we had to wind up with him--as if a certain asthmatic Argentinean asshole wasn't more than enough. As for Andy García, he's not looking too good here. Even apart from the actual model for the Old Man, who was clearly not Fuentes (meaning Internet Movie Database was clearly wrong and should have been corrected), no Cuban should be doing anything that may promote Hemingway, Hemingway-related tourism to Cuba, or a Hemingway crony who's been serving the interests of Castro, Inc. I expect the reason Anselmo Hernández is not named in prior promotional material for this movie is that he's a relatively secondary character in it compared to Fuentes, which is why Fuentes is in the title and being played by García. This sounds like some sort of buddy-flick thing between Hemingway and his boat skipper, with Hernández as a background element. I personally want no part of it, as I find neither "buddy" at all appealing. But let's look on the bright side: at least Andy García didn't hire Carlos Santana to play mambo king Damaso Pérez Prado.

    P.S. Assuming García's letter was posted as written, he evidently meant "citing" where he wrote "sighting." As the Imperial Commission for Linguistic Purity has ruled, just because native English speakers mangle their own language does not give Cuban-Americans permission to do likewise.

  • asombra

    Humberto, given the previously issued material about this movie project, you and Zoe and Arencibia were perfectly justified in your reactions. If incorrect and clearly misleading information was put out, the people behind the film should have taken steps to correct it, especially since the issue has come up before. If anybody dropped the ball, it wasn't you.

  • La Conchita

    Hey, it could've been worse. Andy could've started it out by saying...."Pero fijense que tipo mas DESCARA'O! este Fontova!"

  • Funny how this blog has historically and un-apologetically supported Andy Garcia and his projects, including his music, films, The Lost City and myriad others, and not so much as a thank you from him or his media people. But, question ONE aspect of ONE film currently in production due to obvious inconsistencies between the facts and said movie's press releases and that merits immediate critical attention.

    Facts are facts, Andy.

  • Gallardo

    Whatever, Andy Garcia is very respectable in my book. He is a smart, admirable, and patriotic Cuban. As for the story, it is a fictional story based on reality but fictional nonetheless; thus, what difference does it really make who truly inspired what - Carlos Gutierrez, Carlito, Juan Caca, whomever. I know, Fuentes was forcibly turned into the "inspiration" with the purpose of creating a tourist attraction. This was so given his longevity and relationship with Hemingway but the poor man already died, at 104. A Spanish who attempted to reclaim his Spanish citizenship in 2001 (that should say something).

    My only complain about such films is that they adopt a romantic PG-13 like tone that does not suit the subject matter. This one in particular, maybe indirectly, will only promote Cuba and not do much else. Granted, it will not promote Castro but unless it shows the contrast of the country Cuba was, it will just promote the place for the sake of the slave-masters who run it today.

    Back to my original point, "The Lost City" was R and it was a good respectable film but it had a PG-13 tone. Cuba's story is no PG-13 story, sadly. There is no way one can accurately denounce and expose the realities of Castro's stalinist aberration and that repressive machine that's run by scum with a PG-13 tone. In my opinion, doing so down plays that criminal regime and all its crimes. "1984" for example was R and rightly so. So was "Before Night Falls", a movie that had the right tone, tarnished by so much homosexuality, but realistic, expository, and touching nonetheless.

    Andy should do a film in the style of P.T. Anderson or Scorsese. "The Old Man and the Sea"? I just don't see the point nor did I ever find it to be an interesting story.

  • pototo

    To accuse Mr. Garcia of "falling for the propaganda" is an insult at best. The honorable, as well as humbling thing for Mr. Fontova to do is to apologize. He falsely/loosely/wrongly, whatever made a wrong statement.
    If we go by what we read on Blogs or hear from liberals we would not care for Mr. Fontova would we?
    He should afford Mr. Garcia the same respect.
    Val,
    Please rethink your last comment. It communicates pettiness which I am sure you did not intend. You do what you do and say what you say becuase you believe in it and not for the recognition or accolades. Name me one person who questions loyalty and does not question being misunderstood.
    This whole thing has crossed over to ridiculous.
    I for one would take being called a fool for castro's propaganda as a deep insult.

  • Gallardo

    I would like to add something else, we can't forget the world Andy Garcia is working in, Hollywood. Yes, we see some Hollywood productions here and there with shame but it does not mean they do not encounter tripping feet and resistance. Granted, they aren't many. Andy Garcia needs to play it smart, appeal, and then execute.

    I am sure as f%^k that if Garcia steps into any Hollywood studio proposing to make the story of Cuban freedom fighter so and so or political opponent so and so he will get no after no. Let's not forget that the sensationalistic "The Passion of the Christ", no great film but a huge profit maker no less, had to be financed out of pocket by Mel Gibson. We know who runs Hollywood and who it serves. I hope Andy Garcia, being Cuban, does a substantial job presenting the vivid country that once was, that should again be, and not just promote the name "Cuba" for the sake of the slave-masters who run it today.

  • asombra

    Fuentes apparently lived fairly well off his Hemingway connection, with the regime's blessings because it has also benefited from the whole Hemingway business. It sounds as if he'd say or claim anything that made him more marketable as a Hemingway intimate. In a way, this reminds me of Aleida Guevara living very well off her Che connection, again with the regime's blessings for comparable reasons. In other words, Fuentes seems hardly exemplary, and not even Cuban but Spanish to boot, and turning him into some sort of movie hero is not exactly laudable. No, I have not seen the movie, which remains to be made visible, and I most certainly don't intend to pay for seeing it, but I trust the gist of my position is clear enough. I repeat, Hemingway does not deserve promotion from Cubans, and Cubans should not be promoting, however indirectly, any Hemingway-related foreign tourism to the Castro plantation.

    As for Fontova, he has nothing for which to apologize. He was not going on information from liberal political blogs but on Hollywood trade or industry sources which were clearly misleading, and those behind the proposed movie, who should be quite familiar with such sources and any mention made therein of their project, should have taken appropriate steps to correct any misinformation.

  • OK folks, since it appears that many "commenters" don't bother to read the original post or the documenting links, this comment is also posted as an update on the Post::

    I know full-well that the internet is full of "false information" (just read Wikipedia on ME!) But my inference of Fuentes as "inspiration" did not issue from two-bit blogs or even from Wiki. They are repeated everyplace from Spain's ABC newspaper to The Hollywood Reporter, from Fox News Latino to HispanicBusiness, From IMDb to...in brief EVERYPLACE the movie is mentioned!--this has been going on for close to three years and I never found an official rebuttal. Still I held off from posting. Then last week the clincher when ANDY GARCIA HIMSELF seemingly CONFIRMED IT TO THE ATLANTA JOURNAL CONSTITUTION:

    "I’ve written a movie that I’m going to be directing called “Hemingway & FUENTES,” ABOUT Ernest Hemingway’s RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FISHERMAN WHO INSPIRED “The Old Man and the Sea.” Anthony Hopkins will be playing Hemingway (opposite Garcia as Fuentes). It’s one of those stories that I feel compelled to tell. You can’t sit around hoping someone else will think of it and write it and call me to do it. Sometimes, when you have something to say, you just have to speak up for yourself."

    Perhaps there's a different way to interpret this--but on top of the three year media barrage..?

    And I didn't accuse Mr Garcia off falling for Castro propaganda I questioned (based on all the above) if he might have had.

  • pototo

    Asombra,
    I would have to take issue with the assumption that Hollywood trade rags are trustworthy. They are anything but. I would think we could afford Mr. Garcia the benefit of the doubt rather than Napoleonic guilt. Did not many do at least that when they defended the Estefans? Wrongly I might add.
    Humberto,
    I went back and read the original and the title suggests Mr. Garcia's presumed guilt rather than a assumed innocence. I read it as accusatory.
    It almost seems that with both you and Asombra there is a desire to fight rather than admit a misunderstanding. If your really think Garcia sold out then say so. If not then admit that the info was wrong until it is proven otherwise. Preferably from first person proof rather than liberal heresay. As I said we do the same for you. Garcia deserves the same.We are all on the same team. It seems that this is often forgotten. If what is said is true then I will be on him like I was on the Estefans. Until then I will assume the best.

  • pototo

    This is beginning to remind me of the old SNL skit of "quien es mas macho"
    In our case it can be renamed "quien es mas cubano" or "quien es mas contra-fidel"
    LOL

  • Rayarena

    I agree with Asombra. I, also, question the making of this film. That's not to say that I don't recognize Andy Garcia is a talented performer and an individual who is committed to the liberty of Cuba. For that every freedom loving Cuban American should be grateful to Mr. Garcia. That said, any movie on Hemingway is going to be benefitial to castro unless the movie shows how the old man had to leave Cuba and how Heminway himself left Cuba [despite his initial support for the regime], or at least show some element of the wicked nature of the so-called "revolution."

    castro has created a tourist draw around Hemingway and in fact recently restored Hemingway's home and ship. A movie on Hemingway and the old man will feed this interest in Hemingway.

    Of course, there are other people we would like to see a movie based on, but since Andy is working in Hollywood, it would be very difficult to make a movie on Armando Valladares, el Escambray or some great Cuban writer like Virgilio Pinera, etc....

  • Pototo,

    There's no need for me to rethink my last comment. Obviously, since Babalu is still around and has been for ten years this week, and, I might add, without the need of any recognition from Garcia or other celebrities, your point about any perceived pettiness on my part is moot. I found this letter rather arrogant and disrespectful and completely missing the point of Humberto's original post.

    This leads me to believe that said letter was probably written by the very same person or persons who wrote up the somewhat ambivalent and misleading - whether intentional or not - press releases for the movie.

    we dont do what we do here for andy garcias recognition. we've certainly never had it before and are still here, arent we?

  • pototo

    Val,
    See what you choose to see. You obviously missed what I said and how I said it. You are allowing personal relationships cloud reality. Did Humberto ever go to Garcia to get his input? Is this all not just a misunderstanding? Has anyone seen the movie yet? So why the hangup on who is right or wrong when so far no one has a clue who is right or wrong. Maybe I am wrong, but I thought that this was all about Cuba. It turns out it is about personalities and bruised egos. Signing out of this post.

  • Hey Val, regarding YOUR blog--"Proudly uncowed by celebrities, however rich and famous, for over a decade. We don't suck up to anyone. And we give credit when credit is genuinely due." (just ask the Estefans, Andy Garcia, etc.)

  • FreedomForCuba

    Ditto Humberto, asombra and Val as I am not smitten by Hollywood (or the entertaining industry for that matter) these days...

    In my case it has nothing to do with personalities and bruised egos, it has to do with the Hollywood lefty agenda. I extremely doubt that Hollywood bigwigs will let Andy portray a very negative image of Fidel Castro in this movie.

    Anyway, for many years Ernest Hemingway relationship with Fidel Castro has been portrayed by the left as a sign that the USA should reestablish relations with Castro because if it was good for Hemingway to be friends with Fidel it couldn't be bad for the rest of the US.

    At the end, that's the real message that Hollywood tries to sell the American public.

    Andy Garcia cannot play into that act and I don't see how he'll be able to avoid the Castro/Hemingway love fest message in this movie.

    I sincerely hope I'm wrong...

  • Gigi

    My mac screen's temperature is rising reading all these comments, :-) I've no puppy in this dog fight, but for what it's worth: When Mr. Fontova wrote his initial piece, he had a huge (Texas-size) question mark heading his post. He wasn't accusing Garcia of anything (let's not read into the text what the text doesn't say). He was very careful to lay out his point with supporting evidence, and it was a legitimate concern. With all the positive exposure this blog has given Garcia over the years, it would have been notorious for one of its contributors to do an unfounded hit piece, which it wasn't. It was through this blog that my mind was opened to Garcia's work because, like a lot of people, to me he was just another Hellywood celeb trying to make a living, just happened to be Cuban. Babalu put him on the map in more ways than one.
    So I'm with Val on this one; thank God the blog is an equal opportunity expose that doesn't pander to rank or money or presumed ethnic superiority, or even illustrious artistic careers.

  • I can understand Mr. Garcia being upset, and I know first hand that Hollywood information isn't controlled by the artist. I also agree that Mr. Garcia should pay more attention to the buzz on a project, especially one involving Cuba. IMO, Rayarena's got the money quote on this one, questioning why any self respecting Cuban would be involved in a film potentially beneficial to the regime. So hopefully the movie will show "how the old man had to leave Cuba and how Heminway himself left Cuba." (Hemingway's leaving IMO too little too late, and nothing excuses watching executions for sport.)
    We won't have the answer to that question until the films release. Humberto owes no one an apology.

  • Pototo,

    Again, its not about bruised egos. There have been 28,292 posts in the ten year life span of this blog. Almost all of them dealing with real life Cuba issues like the violation of human rights, repression, the beating and incarceration of dissidents, the murder of said dissidents, etc... and Garcia's people choose to respond, for the first time ever, to a post critical of press releases for a movie?

  • Ziva, please. I've mentioned it THREE different times on this post. Here it is again: I DID NOT rely primarily on the publicity "BUZZ" from second-hand parties. I WAITED UNTIL ANDY GARCIA HIMSELF SAID it--from HIS mouth to a REPUTABLE outfit: in an exhaustive interview with The Atlanta Journal Constitution. I linked HIS OWN confirmation TWICE in this post. I linked it in the original post. Given the nature of my books, my manuscripts all fall under the magnifying glass of the legal depts. some of the world's biggest publishers. And I have NEVER had to omit a single item. In the final analysis (often after much hemming and hawing by the hot-shot lawyers) my documentation always turns out to be rock-solid. No one (except the Castro regime) has ever seriously challenged them.

  • Humberto, I've read the quote, "I’ve written a movie that I’m going to be directing called “Hemingway & Fuentes,” about Ernest Hemingway’s relationship with the fisherman who inspired “The Old Man and the Sea.” Anthony Hopkins will be playing Hemingway (opposite Garcia as Fuentes). It’s one of those stories that I feel compelled to tell. You can’t sit around hoping someone else will think of it and write it and call me to do it. Sometimes, when you have something to say, you just have to speak up for yourself." Not to split hairs, but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt since he does not say exactly that Fuentes is the fisherman who inspired the story. Obviously one could infer that, but he didn't say it.

  • asombra

    Pototo, you cannot rationally suspect me of implying that Hollywood sources are trustworthy in sociopolitical terms, but when they report on industry or show business matters such as a proposed movie, one has to assume they're reasonably reliable, since that IS their business. If said sources or any other media sources misrepresented this project for the past three years, as appears to be the case, surely the people behind the project, specifically Andy García, should have noticed it and corrected it. That is not Fontova's fault, and he is not to blame for being misled. García himself sounded misleading, at least as quoted by the Atlanta paper.

    Furthermore, if there is reasonable cause to suspect that somebody, ANYbody, whether intentionally or unwittingly, is playing fast and loose with anything Cuba-related, as there was in this instance, then calling it out is perfectly justified--if nothing else to clarify the matter, one way or the other. I don't know about you, but if I can call out the Pope, including the soon-to-be canonized JPII, for funny business regarding Cuba, as I have repeatedly, I'm not about to give anybody else a pass if I think something smells fishy. Could I (or Fontova, or anyone) wind up being mistaken? Yes; nobody's infallible. Do people have the right to call it as they genuinely see it? YES. Always, and so they should.

    I think part of the problem is that Fuentes, who lived off the Hemingway thing, and in whose interest it was to inflate his "relevance" or importance, and who sounded like a classic "paluchero" or BS artist, claimed he was the inspiration for the Old Man, even though he admitted he'd never even read the novel, and his age when the novel was written did not qualify as old. Everything points to Anselmo Hernández as the real model, but it is possible that the Old Man was a composite based on various Cuban fishermen known to Hemingway, as his wife seems to have believed.

  • The movie's about the guy who "inspired" the Old man, right? Why has Anselmo Hernandez NEVER been mentioned in three years by Garcia or any of his people? Why is it always Fuentes?

  • asombra

    Because, Humberto, until you presented convincing evidence to the contrary that came to his attention, García may have believed the dubious claims made by Fuentes and no doubt supported by the Castro apparatus, which would not want the real model for the Old Man to be identified as somebody who fled Castro's Cuba in 1965 despite being 92 years old.

  • FreedomForCuba

    "Given the nature of my books, my manuscripts all fall under the magnifying glass of the legal depts. some of the world's biggest publishers. And I have NEVER had to omit a single item. In the final analysis (often after much hemming and hawing by the hot-shot lawyers) my documentation always turns out to be rock-solid."

    All I have to say is:

    Kudos to Humberto and dittos to both asombra and Val (and Humberto of course).

    Case closed...

  • Gallardo

    I just hope that Garcia is cunning enough to use the easily marketable and approved theme as a Trojan horse and not simply do a naive and superficial production that ultimately does no more than promote Marina Hemingway, Museo Hemingway, Hotel Hemingway, Hemingway Fishing Tournament, La Floridita, etc., without Castro even having to pay a dime.

    Val, I understand your point and I agree with it but at the end of it all Andy Garcia is one of us and a very valuable asset. Yes, maybe he got upset at the blunt title and his response was arrogant as a result but the man is on the right side of things and has always been a proud exponent.

    If Garcia was just being naive and looking for an easy throwback on celluloid he will certainly be rethinking how he'll execute the project as a result of Fontova’s post and the realities that have been discussed here regarding the potential consequences.

    That said, this blog is great but it's still, sadly, just a blog doing what most blogs do, mostly preach to the choir (that being the Cuban community). I am sure that a multidimensional Hollywood movie with just a little substance will reach more people than a blog ever will. It will also debunk Castro's commercial kidnapping of Hemingway (After all, the opinionated drunk left Castrolandia running, interesting…).

    We shouldn’t tell Andy Garcia to just go screw himself over who is disrespecting who, belittling who, or who needs who. We should communicate with the man, who has demonstrated to be decent, for the sake of our common good and dignity before pointing canons in such a way.

    If el comandante de mierda has thought us something it is the importance of using media accordingly and we should work as a team to do the same but with reality.

    NOW, if after all this, the movie comes out and it is indeed no more than a naive and pointless frivolity serving as no more than a "Cuba" promotion, then yes, we turn the page.

  • FreedomForCuba

    "I just hope that Garcia is cunning enough to use the easily marketable and approved theme as a Trojan horse and not simply do a naive and superficial production that ultimately does no more than promote Marina Hemingway, Museo Hemingway, Hotel Hemingway, Hemingway Fishing Tournament, La Floridita, etc., without Castro even having to pay a dime."

    We'll see Gallardo, that's my biggest fear.

  • Honey

    So much back and forth. Our enemies love it when we argue among ourselves. I do, too. That's what freedom is about. And ain't it grand?

    Bottom line for me I would have preferred Garcia be asked the question personally before it be asked in public here.

    If you look at cliff notes on the book you can see something like this:

    The novella is truly universal in its consideration of the plight of an old man struggling against age, poverty, loneliness, and mortality to maintain his identity and dignity, reestablish his reputation in the community, and ensure for all time his relationship with those he loves and to whom he hopes to pass on everything he values most.

    Well that is certainly true of Cubans in Cuba today. Perhaps Garcia could use this idea to sneak into the movie the fight for personal liberty that lands some Cubans in their Gulag.

    The Old Man and the Sea is about a fisherman. Today Cubans are not even allowed to fish without specific government permission. It is an island! There has to be a way to slip that in subliminally or overtly.

    The metaphors of this book are perfect to show the truth about Cuba today. Perhaps Garcia does not want to make an overtly political movie, but if he is creative, he could slip some truth in there yet.

  • FreedomForCuba

    Honey,

    As Val accurately stated, Andy Garcia never took the time to contact Babalu before and Humberto (based on the information he was getting) did not have to contact him either.

    Perhaps Andy should be the one getting in touch with the Babalu folks to clear the air, explain accurately what's going on with his project and his intentions with it while listening to the Babalu folks concerns on this matter. If this meeting would take place there is a very good possibility that the Babalu folks could end up helping him spreading his message and promoting his movie.

    I sincerely hope that Andy Garcia reads this post because it could end up as a win-win situation for everyone.

  • Ricardo

    Well,

    I think its about Hernandez. But to me Hemingway was another overrated puesdo. guy anyways. That book bored me shitless. What and overrated guy he was.

    Buena mierda!

    54 years 6mos. And counting any questions?

  • Guys,

    No one here is "arguing". we're having a friendly debate between family members on a subject thats in the periphery of all things Cuba.

  • Honey

    Freedom,
    I too hope he is reading this exchange. that was the purpose of my comment.

  • Gigi

    Megasuper dittos, Ricardo ~ you have absolutely made my day. You're the first person I meet who dares tell it - Hemingway's most overrated dude of the 20th century. I used to cringe thru high school & college when his work was mandatory reading; after the first two novels, I wondered how in the heck was this guy winner of any lit prize. Poor command of the language & not very creative prose; just a hunter and fisherman who snookered the public with stories from his travels & that's about it. Then I visited his house in Key West with all the stray cats running the shop at his bungalow and ....well, it all made sense.

  • asombra

    Hemingway's standing is certainly not what it once was, but history is full of once-famous and celebrated writers whose reputations eventually fade, to the point that practically nobody reads them any more except maybe academics or specialists . As for being highly overrated, that's a very common phenomenon in many fields, far more common than lasting merit. Quite a few past winners of the Nobel Prize for Literature have sunk into oblivion, as if they'd never existed. I think Hemingway survives based more on his "mystique" than his novels as such.

    So yes, Hemingway's work has aged poorly, but he was still considered a major figure around the time the Castro regime was at its bloodiest, and he chose to treat its summary executions like a kind of amusement instead of using his prestige to denounce them. It would not, of course, have been fashionable to do so. The odious Sartre, who was probably an even bigger literary star at the time, was practically drooling in ecstasy over the "revolution" in general and Che Guevara in particular. Maybe Hemingway didn't want to look old-fashioned or behind the times, or maybe he just didn't give a shit.

    Regardless of his motivation, he'd gotten plenty of mileage out of Cuba for decades (pre-Castro Cuba, that is), and when that Cuba was going down in flames, he didn't do a damn thing to help it. As I've said, maybe by then all he really cared about was booze, but he was still a detestable old wreck. I want nothing to do with him in connection to Cuba, nothing except rejection and contempt, especially since his "legacy" has been to serve the interests of Castro, Inc., even if posthumously. On moral grounds alone, I cannot see how García's proposed movie can be justified, unless it's a radical departure from the norm that will surprise everyone, which seems quite unlikely. Barring that, I want no part of it.