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“So Che Guevara’s murdering innocent Cubans?’ “I’ll drink to dat! Let’s go WATCH!” (whooped Ernest Hemingway)

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“There's something you should see,” Hemingway told Plimpton while preparing a shaker of drinks for the outing....they got in the car with a few others and drove some way out of town. They got out, set up chairs and took out the drinks, as if they were going to watch the sunset. Soon, a truck arrived. This, explained George, was what they'd been waiting for. It came, as Hemingway knew the same time each day. It stopped and some men with guns got out of it. In the back were a couple of dozen others who were tied up. Prisoners.

The men with guns hustled the others out of the back of the truck, and lined them up.--FUEGO!!!-- Then they shot them. They put the bodies back into the truck.”

From the BLOCKBUSTER(!!!) forthcoming book, The Longest Romance. The meticulous documentation proving Hemingway's drunken celebration of Che's firing squad massacres passed full muster with the legal dept. of the publishers of books by Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, David Horowitz, John Bolton, Andrew McCarthy, Jean Francois-Revel, Robert Bork, among many other conservative superstars.

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21 comments to “So Che Guevara’s murdering innocent Cubans?’ “I’ll drink to dat! Let’s go WATCH!” (whooped Ernest Hemingway)

  • asombra

    Humberto, you beat me to it. I was going to refer to your post about this dated 3/25/12. As I said then, the fact Hemingway took people to see summary executions as if he were taking them to a tourist attraction or to watch a sunset, and prepared for it as if for a football game tailgate party, speaks volumes about the man. Why didn’t Hemingway, who was a VERY big deal back then, write about such executions to alert the world? He sure as hell would have if the perpetrators had been Franco’s people in the wake of the Spanish Civil War. But he wasn’t about to rain on Castro’s parade, presumably out of sympathy or wanting to protect his cozy and longstanding Cuba set-up. Besides, it was just Cubans being shot. No biggie, apparently; sort of like bulls being killed for sport. Also, by then I expect he probably didn't much care about anything except having plenty of booze around. Alcoholic bastard. I repeat yet again: no Cuban should be promoting Hemingway, period.

  • pototo

    Beware of PETA as beating a dead horse may be considered animal abuse. There is no question among Cubans regarding Hemingway. Sadly this has digressed to one upmanship. I for one will reserve my judgements on the true basis of this post till I see facts. Until then , in keeping with the spirit of the post, noddy noddy boo boo.

  • Indeed, Asombra...plenty more on Hemingway's swinishness coming. Enlisted by the KGB, etc. The declassified FBI file on him, WHOO-BOY! J. Edgar Hoover had Hemingway's number from day one.

  • FreedomForCuba

    asombra, It looks like you accurately stated Hemingway stay of mind in the last years of his life as it is obvious his reasoning and common sense were completely impaired by heavy alcohol consumption.

    Plus let's face it, Hemingway was a commie sympathizer from back in the days of the Spanish Civil War of 1936-39 when he was involved with the Communist faction there.

  • maristas60

    Oye Fontova, me thinks dat won't make tha movie You?

  • R

    As the Asombra’s post indicates there was something crooked with Hemingway, very similar to the Argentinean Ernest with whom he shared many other similarities besides the name.

    “His mother dressed him in girl's clothes, maintained his hair at feminine length and style, and called him "Ernestine" until young Hemingway, at age six, demanded a haircut, boy's clothing, and to be called by his real name”. (http://www.nndb.com/people/790/000022724/)

    As far as for not writing about the Castro’s executions perhaps it has something to do with the man’s dirty conscience as there is a rumor out there that Hemingway enjoyed killing German POWs. This is a (unconfirmed) reference to that; Ernest Hemingway, "Selected Letters 1917-1961", edited by Carlos Baker, Charles Sribner's Sons, New York 1981, pp. 672, 697.

  • asombra

    Well, Pototo, Andy García is Cuban, or Cuban-American, and he doesn't seem to have a serious problem with Hemingway. Apparently, Hemingway is not a dead horse to him, but a horse he can ride to advantage. True, nobody's seen his movie yet, and the proof is in the pudding, but assuming it gets made, I rather doubt it will treat Hemingway as he deserves. I also doubt it will not lend itself, regardless of García's intentions, to fostering foreign tourism to Castro's Cuba.

    To be fair, it's a kind of no-win situation. If it buys into the long-established Hemingway narrative, which is probably the most marketable approach, it will offend if not outrage Cubans who know the score. If it goes "revisionist," it can be dismissed, if not attacked, as sour grapes from "those people," which is pretty much what happened with The Lost City. Not a good choice, which is why I say, find another project and forget "Papa."

  • asombra

    In that photo of the younger Hemingway, he looks like that cheesy Lyle Waggoner from the old Carol Burnett show. Maybe that's really what he was, a glorified and twisted cheeseball.

  • "Lyle Waggoner!"--Oye pero mira que aqui en Babalu uno se DIVIERTE!

    http://www.nndb.com/people/845/000023776/

  • pototo

    asombra,
    The dead horse is not hemingway, but the beating of Garcia at every opportunity is. Who can argue for Hemingway? No one. As I said, I will judge when I have the evidence. Are things that great in Cuba tha the only thing to pile on is a supposition? And that of someone who to date has been faithful to the cause?
    I am curious as to how many Garcia bashers frequent establishments in Miami where the owners travel to Cuba or have friends who still go in? I would assume they would post against the individuals and definitely shun them. Are we selectively purists or do we just seek the most useful targets for self promotion? Maybe Garcia is just a convenient tool for help in selling books?
    Napoleonic condemnation should be above us. We ran from that as if I need to remind most here.

  • FreedomForCuba

    "Maybe Garcia is just a convenient tool for help in selling books?"

    Come on pototo, please let's not push the limits, because the same can be said for Garcia and this movie and I for one don't want to fall into that mudslinging trap because it does not benefit anyone.

    The bottom line here is what I posted a while back about the Hemingway image been used to foster relations between the USA and the Castro tyranny:

    "Anyway, for many years Ernest Hemingway relationship with Fidel Castro has been portrayed by the left as a sign that the USA should reestablish relations with Castro because if it was good for Hemingway to be friends with Fidel it couldn't be bad for the rest of the US. "

    Please don't loose the sight of that reality, this is the point I was trying to drive Andy Garcia with my posts.

    I wished he took time out of his busy schedule to read it.

  • asombra

    Pototo, I don't recall commenting on Andy García here before, certainly not negatively, and I'm not trying to sell any book. As for your use of "dead horse," it seems much more appropriate for Hemingway, even though he's not universally reviled, certainly not by non-Cubans, and most certainly not for the reasons Cubans like me revile him. If he were, I doubt Andy García would be planning a movie around him presumably meant to have mass appeal. We're not talking Ingmar Bergman here.

  • pototo

    asombra,
    I was dealing with Fontova's endless self promotion and "his" book peddling as well as dabbling with sensationalism regarding Garcia. Its easier to push a book is you can create a strawman to draw attention.
    FFC,
    there is no doubt that Hemingway was a communist moron. Like I said before, I will assume Garcia's innocence till proven guilty, If guilty I will go after him like I do all other traitors to the cause. If not then each will have to deal with their own accusations. Anyways, this is turning into a dead horse as well.

  • asombra

    So Pototo, what do you think is more likely, that Andy García will make a movie treating the communist moron and the future Castro tool Fuentes as they deserve, or that he'll make a nice, warm-and-fuzzy buddy flick about colorful characters set in a tourist-enticing context?

  • FreedomForCuba

    "what do you think is more likely, that Andy García will make a movie treating the communist moron and the future Castro tool Fuentes as they deserve"

    I guarantee that this won't happen in Andy's movie as the Hollywood bigwigs will never allow it. If Andy would be courageous enough to take that stand with this movie, that movie wouldn't move beyond the cutting floor and Andy would pay a hefty price for it. It will be more than what happened to The Lost City.

    Most likely Andy would be allowed to display his relationship with Fuentes in a relatively positive way. Andy may be allowed to insert some criticism of Hemingway's relationship with Fidel Castro and his Revolution and his heavy drinking, but never to the extreme of tarnishing Hemingway's image to the point that the American audience will come to understand the kind of individual Ernest Hemingway really was.

    Hollywood bigwigs will never allow it...

  • pototo

    Asombra, based on Garcia's track record I choose to believe the former . I can only go by what we already know of him rather than what some assume he will do .
    Isn't that how we typically judge people? I hope I am correct. I must give the benefit of the doubt. I believe he is owed that much .

  • FreedomForCuba

    I don't worry about Andy Garcia, I worry about the Hollywood bigwigs.

    One thing is attacking Fidel Castro and another is attacking "The American Icon" Ernest Hemingway in a movie that millions will see.

    I wonder how far the bigwigs will let Andy go with his movie, that's my main concern...

  • The problem is not in making the film, the problem is in distribution and theatre screen exposure.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1405502/companycredits?ref_=tt_ql_7

  • asombra

    Pototo, it's not just a question of García himself; he doesn't operate in a vacuum, and there are industry and business considerations involved. There's the problem of political correctness, the entrenched bias against anyone perceived as belonging to "those people," and the fact that Hemingway is no longer nearly as big culturally as he once was. In other words, García cannot be expected to stack the deck against his own project by making a movie which will be panned by the media and have no appeal to the public. If he goes ahead with this thing, he will be under major pressure to produce something reasonably marketable, as opposed to something effectively dead on arrival, which is why I think the "buddy movie" angle involving colorful characters and lush Caribbean scenery is far more likely than a deconstruction of the established Hemingway "narrative." As I've already said, I think this is pretty much a no-win situation.

  • Asombra, Luque Escalona picked up on our Babalu exchange about his books that you recommended to me. So he's mailing me a signed Che book!..HOT-DAMN!

  • pototo

    Asombra,
    He made the lost city didn't he? Not too
    Politically correct