25 thoughts on “Cuba Nostalgia Moment”

  1. I saw on the televised news this evening (Telemundo – Miami), the U.S. government released documents that purport Luis Posada Carriles discussing an act similar to the Venezulan aircraft incident prior to its occurance. A copy of this document appears on the National Security Archive web site. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/

    While he is in U.S. custody, seeking asylum, why would they want to assist in releasing information that could potentially harm him even if the even if the ascribed excerpt in the document does not bear any significance?

    It appears as if they are preparing to throw him over board.

  2. Val,
    Thanks for the “exposure” (forgive the pun).
    For the benefit of the regular (and the irregular!) readers of Babalublog.com, allow me to point out that there are at least seven (7) different galleries of photographs at http://www.zphotos.smugmug.com already (just click on “Events” and then on the gallery you’d like to see), with a total of a couple of hundred images, and I expect to add a lot more photos in the very near future.
    Those galleries include:
    –Babalublog.com
    –Artists/Creators
    –El Malecon
    –El Encanto
    –The Mariel Boatlift
    –Musica y Baile
    –Guayaberas
    I am still working on a couple of feature stories about different aspects of CubaNostalgia, and I think that, once we publish them in Babalublog.com, we will have had the most extensive coverage of CubaNostalgia in the history of the event.
    All thanks to Val and his hardy tribe of helpers and supporters, folks.
    Enjoy!
    Julio

  3. Same here, Kathleen, and thanks for the compliment.
    I feel that CubaNostalgia was, truly, a life-changing experience for me (remember, I have sort of living my exile in a rather Cuban-less area in Maryland –I didn’t even know there was such a phenomenon as CubaNostalgia until this year). I’m so grateful to Val for letting me know about it back in March, when I met with him after my trip to the Dry Tortugas.
    And to be invited to stop at Mancamp afterwards sure was a highlight!
    Julio

  4. mambisa

    But we have to be consistent about terrorism. We can’t say that Bin Laden is an evil man and then in the same breath say that a mass murderer like Posada is a hero. Surely we haven’t sunk so low that we support blowing up airplanes full of civilians?

    One of the reasons that most people in Europe and a lot of people here support Castro is because they see us all as a bunch of murdering terrorists who will stop at nothing for political advantage. The Elian thing also did us a lot of harm in the eyes of the world.

    And look, let’s face it. Castro is a dictator, but not everything is so terrible in Cuba. Some things he got right, like health and education. Somethings he got wrong, like suppressing freedom. If we are honest about it, most people in Cuba support him a bit, and oppose him a bit. We need to wake up and start dealing with reality or we are going to face another 45 years of political failure.

    We can spend our days in a fantasy world where we pretend that Cuba is the very worst place on earth, or we can be smart and accept reality and try to make it better. I have travelled to many other countries in the Americas, and some are far worse than Cuba. Cubans are not stupid. They know that there is more poverty elsewhere. And if we are to appeal to them we have to explain how a change in the regime will improve their lives, and not end up with them living in a shanty with even less than they have at present.

    We need to deal with CUBAN reality. Not United States reality. Most Cubans are going to stay living in Cuba, whoever the president is.

  5. While in Cuba some people may elect to go through a garbage can(like many in the US),in Peru they go through the garbage dump!

    Check it out!

    http://www.andrys.com/gb-big.jpg

    Take a look at their buildings in Peru!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/235000/images/_239406_peru_poor.jpg

    Just in case you didnt know,in Cuba it is illegal to be homeless,yes that’s right,illegal,funny how no one here ever mentions that?

    At least in Cuba they have more then other countries who do not have an embargo placed over their heads!

    How’s that possible?

    ALL embargoes worlwide should be lifted,embargoes on countries have NEVER worked to rid those countries of dictators,now perhaps a world blocade can,but NEVER an embargo!

  6. From the fertile mind of YUCA via the MSM and fidel’s “helpful media” email listserv:

    Say no to the embargo and help your people, FOR ONCE!

    At least in Cuba they have more then other countries who do not have an embargo placed over their heads!

    Just in case you didnt know, in Cuba it is illegal to be homeless,yes that’s right, illegal, funny how no one here ever mentions that?

    I’ve been to 22 countries while in the service,and like Bob said,Cuba is nowhere near as bad as other countries,but I guess none of you know this as your only focus is on Cuba,you never wan’t to face facts by comparing Cuba to other countries,which is really one track minded of you all.

    Perfect. Brilliant. Thanks, compa?ero. Your red kerchief, fidel secret decoder ring, and autographed picture of raul castro are in the mail for you.

    BTW, you shook Val’s hand and didn’t tell him who you were? Hmmm.

  7. George,no need to send me any autograph photos of anyone,I already house one of the largest Cuban photo collections,dating back as far as 1864,with many extremely rare books and documents even older,thank you anyways.

    You view me from the wrong position “Amigo” I dont give two fucks about Castro nor anyone in that Government,I care about the 11 million on the island that have less due to the embargo!

    Call my naive if you like for wanting to help the pople of Cuba,call me an idiot,call me a dummy,but what you cannot call me is a supporter of starving your own people!

    Yes I shook Val’s hand,so what?

    Need I introduce myself to a man who openly does not like my way of thinking? I think not.

    It may have angered Val to learn who I was and you never know where it would of gone from there as many of you are quick to throw stones to anyone who doesnt approve of your way of thinking,and if that was to have happened,I can assure you,the shit would of hit the fan!

    You dont get the picture Georgie,it isnt all about Cuba,although to you it is,but then again you cant have anything good to do with Cuba as you do nothing but hurt it’s oppurtunity of advancement,right,Compadre?

    Answer me this Georgie,would it ever anger you to know that the US has had US military men actually protecting Castro? And how would you feel about that?

    Just a thought!

  8. A gem from the mind of Bob:

    “Most Cubans are going to stay living in Cuba, whoever the president is.”

    “Whoever the president is”?! Are you referring to fidel? That duly-elected, representative of the people?

    Instead people rather sit here and show you images of Cuba then and Cuba now,well guess what? Those days are long gone and Cuba now isnt a tength of what Cuba was,we ALL know this,but by supporting the embargo any longer you will only continue to make Cuba a ruin of a once great country!

    And another gem from the mind of Bob:

    …but not everything is so terrible in Cuba. Some things he got right, like health and education. Somethings he got wrong, like suppressing freedom . . . I have travelled to many other countries in the Americas, and some are far worse than Cuba. Cubans are not stupid. They know that there is more poverty elsewhere. And if we are to appeal to them we have to explain how a change in the regime will improve their lives, and not end up with them living in a shanty with even less than they have at present.

    I guess since Hitler designed the volkswagen and built the Autobahn, and since Mussolini made the trains run on time, and since Stalin built the Moscow underground, then they’re OK guys, right? Bob, do you get your script directly from fidel’s “helpful media” email listserv, or is it fed to your brain subliminally by the MSM. You cannot be this dumb.

    Here’s a little lesson for you: we did not make Cuba a ruin; fidel did! Even with trade from any other country he wants! He did it! Now, he wants the embargo lifted because, since he has defaulted ON BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS of dollars from the rest of the world, he knows the only remaining suckers are unsuspecting American businessmen who DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING CLUE about who he is.

    I cannot tell you how sick and fucking tired I am of hearing the same bullshit spewed over and over again. Why do you want to play this vile game of moral equivalence with a monster? Would you do it with Hitler? No, right? Then why are folks like you willing to give fidel a pass by comparing us to him? If we return Posada, fidel wins a PR victory. Period. That is it in a nutshell. Do you know that Posada was acquitted — TWICE — of the crime he is accused of by fidel and chavez? And even with that, chavez insists on having him extradited to Venezuela? Do you know why? Because his master demands it to make the US look bad — with the willing and enthusiastic help of the sycophantic castro ass-kissing press in the US.

    One of the reasons that most people in Europe and a lot of people here support Castro is because they see us all as a bunch of murdering terrorists who will stop at nothing for political advantage. The Elian thing also did us a lot of harm in the eyes of the world.

    I wish we would have known how they would feel sixty years on from their liberation. I bet they didn’t see us as terrorists when we were liberating their countries from the nazis or protecting them with our missles from the soviets. Please, Bob, please. You can do better. Here’s my two cents: I do not give a flying fuck what they think about us; I do not give a flying fuck if the world thinks we were wrong about Elian. The Europeans — led by the French — have supported and armed middle eastern dictators for decades to the detriment of Israel (the only democracy in the middle east). Do they care? Of course not. They are in no position to lecture the US about jack.

    Besides, we spilled blood over there to save them. They should still be thanking us and kissing our asses for the rights and economies they have today paid for by American blood.

  9. Funny you mention spilling blood Georgie,how much blood have you spilled?

    I know I dont have a purple heart on my wall for no reason,amongst other honors.

    I thank you for kissing my ass since I was one of the many who invaded Grenada,Kuwait and Panama on top of my hundreds of missions,including those terrible anti-drug fights in the fucking dark jungles of Colombia.

    I thank you once again for kissing my ass for something you obviously didnt have the balls to do,joining the US arm forces.

    Gracias.

  10. Hey, YUCA, a few things:

    (1) The name is GEORGE. At least I don’t hide myself behind some cute, little handle.

    (2) You need to put spaces after the commas.

    (3) Let me get this straight: you have a Purple Heart on your wall but were afraid to tell Val who you were because you were afraid the shit would hit the fan? Jesus, I’m glad you’re out of the military. Val and I may not agree with you, but we’ll defend your absolute right to be an imbecile — which you have made abundantly clear with your comments here today.

    BTW, How old are you? I was on the draft lottery system for Vietnam before Richard Nixon, God bless him, ended the draft. You can be sure I would have gone if called, since I am no senator’s son. I didn’t volunteer because I had a mother and young sister to support.

    Any other questions, you smug piece of shit?

  11. Censorship is what you might call it if the government stopped you from expressing your opinions. This is Val’s blog and he can include the opinions he wants because, well it’s his blog. You have every right to say what you want in your own forum. But Val doesn’t have tolerate una falta de respeto. Your aruments against the embargo are tired, and false. When the world could no longer tolerate the apartheid regime of South Africa it’s days were numbered. The US is on the right side of this one (as usual) and the rest of the world is wrong. When they see the light and put real presure on Castro by “putting him in a box” he’ll be gone. The US has had many different policies towards Cuba because this a democracy where power peacefully changes hands every 4 or 8 years. Each president has his own agenda and thus policies change. The one constant throughout is Castro and his antagonist policy toward the US. To quote one of the bad news bears… “Blow it out your bunghole!”

  12. Thanks for the comment:

    Bob said:

    “But we have to be consistent about terrorism. We can’t say that Bin Laden is an evil man and then in the same breath say that a mass murderer like Posada is a hero. Surely we haven’t sunk so low that we support blowing up airplanes full of civilians?”

    I do not endorse or support the act of “blowing up airplanes full of civilians”, however, Carriles was acquitted twice of these charges and so far no credible evidence has yet to present itself that convicts him of these allegations.

    He may be considered a terrorist in the eyes of many who are of a younger generation and may naively belief the rhetoric of the day. Nevertheless, Carriles has been in the employ of the U.S. government practically since he initially set foot on its soil, and perhaps even prior to leaving his homeland.

    Although his former employer may require plausible deniability and the need to at least appear to distance itself from him as a result of policy modifications, not to mention the enormous change in official attitudinal climate from the time of 17 April 1961 to the present.

    The fact of the matter is, whatever he is purported to have done or not have done, in fact or fiction, he was a good and faithful employee who simply carried out whatever his orders were as they pertained to the policy and official attitudinal climate at the time.

    Speaking of “blowing up airplanes full of civilians”, the Brothers To The Rescue lost two planes and four volunteers on 24 February 1996.

    They were shot down by Cuban Migs over international water and were the result of an espionage operation called Red Vespa (or something to that affect) in which a Cuban intelligence operative infiltrated the Brothers and orchestrated the cold blooded assassination of four innocent guys. You should listen to the recordings of the cockpit dialogue between the Mig pilots and Cuban ground control. They were celebrating what they had done.

    “But we have to be consistent about terrorism”, the U.S. should not be pressured to hand Carriles over to anyone and especially not for the reason or purpose of exhibiting good faith or consistency with regard to a current policy on terrorism when Castro harbors many international criminals.

    One such person is Joanne Chesimard (Asata Shakur) the Black Panther/Black Liberation Army fugitive who escaped from a prison here in the U.S. for her involvement of the shooting death of a New Jersey State Trooper.

    Two wrongs do not equal one right. Over the years plenty of sins have been committed on both sides of the water. However, if Cuba and their chip monk mouthpiece Alacron (or however his name is spelled) presumes to play the game of “holier than thou” and presumes to express demands on the U.S. with regard to its current policy with regard to terrorism, then they have a great deal to answer for first.

    Speaking of terrorism, what about the 13 July 1994 massacre by the Cuban government upon the tugboat 13 de Marzo? That act was perpetrated on the Cuban people by their own government. What do you have to say about that Mr. Alacron?

  13. mambisa, the guy is a self confessed terrorist! Have you lost your moral compass? Until we start acting like human beings people all over the world will condemn us as mindless extremists who don’t deserve an audience. Do you know what people in Havana say about us??? Do you really believe that Cubans are praying for the return of the old ruling elite??? You live in dreamn world, man. It’s just not true. Change in Cuba will come from Cubans in Cuba. Get it?

    Cuban-Americans deserve better than this terrible leadership we have in Miami. The embargo and terrorism has been an unmitigated failure from start to finish – it’s just seperated us from our families FOR NOTHING!! The policy hasn’t worked. Are you so blind you can’t see that? WAKE UP!! Come to terms with reality or face the dustbin of history.

  14. Bob, I noticed you did not respond to my comments re your previous post. Your statements, coming straight from the regime’s MSM-approved, sensitive, politically correct left playbook, are, in addition to being incredibly naive, dangerous. Many times we have asked those of you on the other side of the issues who post on this blog to finally answer a simple question:

    Explain to us how lifting the embargo will improve the lives of everyday Cubans. Also, explain how a regime that denies basic human rights to its citizens, a regime that arrests people who are selling black-market cheese, a regime that denies basic nutrition to its citizens while feeding tourists, a regime that has defaulted on BILLIONS of dollars and expropriated BILLIONS more in property, can be trusted to do the right thing once your plan is in place?

    Please, if you are serious about your positions, answer those questions.

    Are you serious when you say this:

    The embargo and terrorism has been an unmitigated failure from start to finish – it’s just separated us from our families FOR NOTHING!! The policy hasn’t worked.

    Two things: (1) fidel and his regime has separated families, not the embargo. fidel separated families when he murdered and imprisoned innocent men and women. Does that count as “separation” Bob? When fidel was receiving billions is subsidies from the USSR he had the same policies; why would he change now? (2) If the embargo has been such a failure then why is it so damn critical to lift it? I’ve always wondered why that simple contradiction isn’t more fully explained. Please explain it us.

    Also, to what terrorism are you referring? The isolated cases on the island? You did not respond to the mambisa’s question about the Brothers shootdown, or the 13 de marzo. Are you willing to deal with a regime that shoots down unarmed civilian airplane and then gleefully talks about it? A regime that rams and sinks a tug full of women and children and elderly folks? Bob, what possesses people like you to think fidel will change?

    Cuban-Americans deserve better than this terrible leadership we have in Miami.

    Who are you referring to?

    Until we start acting like human beings people all over the world will condemn us as mindless extremists who don’t deserve an audience.

    “Mindless extremists”? Please, explain and be specific. I lost you here.

    Do you know what people in Havana say about us???

    Yes. They say, “aren’t the ones who got to Miami the luckiest sons-of-bitches in the world? When can I get on the fucking raft?”

    I won’t hold my breath for your answers…

  15. George,please forgive me for the the comments I made about your family yesterday,totally uncalled for,but with the same token I ask you to not call me a communist supporter of Castro lover as it is far from the truth.

  16. WOW!!
    Will the REAL CUBANS please stop the madness!!
    this Bob sounds like he might be that idiot “alcalde of Hialeah”…poor thing, he is getting all his info from the “political-correct” CBS, NBC, ABC and of course CNN (Communist News Network)even Fox News sometimes is blinded by our liberal friends that think the embargo is the cause of all the “ills” of Fidel’s Cuba, Guantanamo is a Gulag, Cuban Americans are the Miami Mafia, Thank God for FREEDOM, here we are expressing our views any way we choose.
    Bob, just a word of advice for you.Hang in there, with a little Laxative from this blog, you should be allright in a few days.

  17. After reading all this, there is only one thing I have to say:
    ESTOY PERDIENDO LA TABLA…YA!!
    Traigan al Babalu pa’ un despojo!

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