We’ll be having some friends over for the SuperBowl today so I probably wont be around much.
I do however want to take this opportunity to cagarme en fidel castro y su revolucion.
Also, I had wanted to mention that we’ll be eating pork ribs at ManCamp today but I wouldnt want a Fatwah placed upon me by those oh so tolerant Muslims! I can see the protest posters now:
BEHEAD ALL PORK EATERS!
DEATH TO THOSE WHO EAT PIGS!
THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM BY EATING PORK SHALL DIE!
The Religion of Peace my ass.
Val,
How intolersnt (tongue in cheek) you are. So in the spirit of liberals who believe in free speech as long as you speak as they do, the peace loving, never violent, the violent muslims don’t represent us all (yeah right, just most), yada, yada , yada (oh yeah I forgot a muslim would never say yada as they hate jews (even though muslims are not hateful people, We are going to poison your pork. We are declaring war against you and your kind. It will be a “holy” war (oxymoron) against you and anyone who does not quake in fear to us. Okay thats enough, I can’t even enjoy acting the part of a muslim.
GO DUTCH, enjoy a rib at man camp and toast the Dutch. And enjoy a rib in celebration to the year that will bring freedom to Cuba.
Here’s a pork question: Yesterday I bought some roast pork at my local Mexican supermercado. They call it “carnitas”, but it looked exactly like the pictures I’ve see of Christmas Eve “lechon” that Cubans refer to. Is there an difference, or only in the terminology, like the way Brits call potato chips “crisps”?
The carnitas were delicious, by the way.
GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!
Have fun! I’ll be watching for the commercials. =)
Danish ham. Havarti cheese. Tuborg beer.
FU Islamofascists!
Ummmmm, tasty Superbowl heaven!
Scott,
the carnitas offered by the Mexican infidels is usually a but roast or a pork leg that it is deep fried. For the most part Cuban infidels roast their pork, exept for somthing called masitas, which are pork chunks, which are also fried.
A toast to the infidels!
And to the non-fidels!
Sorry, La Ventanita,
But when all is said and done this evening, the scoreboard will read: Pittsburgh 27, Seattle 10.
You heard it here first, at approximately 3 PM, more than two hours before the opening whistle.
Please don’t ask me how I know, because if I told you, I would have to do something *real* drastic to you…
🙂
JulioZ
PS – I truly pray we will get to witness a thrilling spectacle, rather than a dull, runaway contest (in either direction). I’m hoping for a memorable Super Bowl… for instance, who remembers who played in it last year, without having to look it up! Or the year before?
Porky Pig says: “I demand much respect!”
Infidel greetings:
(Love that label). Before y’all start munching on the pig(s) — yummy-yummy — and putting up with pre-game TV hosts’ estupideces, check out this little video & spread the word ….
http://media.michellemalkin.com/firsttheycame0545.wmv
Have fun ….!!!!! Don’t drink + drive.
Go Pitt.
Julio, I hate the Steelers, and as such cannot go AFC on this one as some others are doing. However, over anything else, I’m with you in that I hope it is a spectacle of a game, similar to the last half of the Steelers-Colt duel. It certainly has the potential to be a great game….I still hope that the Seahawks can overpower Polamalu, Bettis and Rothlesberg
You are spot on my friend. Offended my ass! This is a clear fanning of the flames to push an agenda.
You pulling for the AFC team?
GO STEELERS!
Ok, so I lost. But it wasn’t a great game either, and the commercials (which for me are always one of the highlights) were a bit stale.
Congratulations to those of you rooting for the steelers. Julio you were off by 6 points.
I liked the one in which Fabio turns old and creepy.
Heinz,
Yes we believe he does worry about us. Why? because of all the effort he makes in trying to silence opposition here and in Cuba.
Got any more dumb questions?
How does Fidel Castro try to silence opposition here?
By fomenting discontent and artificially creating conflicts through is agents her, two of which were recently arrested…
Artificial conflicts??
Are you implying that the only way that a Cuban can disagree with another Cuban in Miami regarding Cuba herself is if one is a spy?
Are you saying that dissent is tantamount to treason?
MTF,
Sigh…You are fully free to say what you want in Miami, period. That is not the case in Cuba.
Castro has repeatedly sent spies to infiltrate and try to divide the exile community.
Bottom line, anyone here that supports a barbaric and tyrannical regime like Cuba can expect to be looked at the same way as though the Hitler youth would be regarded in a Jewish community.
Geez. Have some common sense.
I’m just saying that castro’s intelligence service — one of the most effective in the world — is expert at manipulation. They have succeeded, in part, in preventing an unidad Cubana, one with the single goal of fidel’s defeat, to materialize. “Divide and conquer.” Don’t tell me you don’t believe they are among us, because if you don’t believe that, you are a fool.
The Hitler Youth?
Wasn’t Pope Benedict a member of the HY?
What’s your point?
I’m sorry but I don’t think that the DI is THAT effective where it is the only thing “preventing a unified Cuba.”
It seems to me like the biggest obstacle are people who are more selfish in their Cubaview than they want others to be aware of.
Cuba has a total population of how many millions and most of them have military training.
If a small band of people could overthrow a Cuban government generously supported and supplied by the U.S. government almost fifty years ago, why haven’t enough people materialized in Cuba to overthrow a government that is receiving military support from no one? Could it be that – like it or not – there are stil enough Cubans in Cuba that – fools or not – still support Castro?
The biggest thing keeping this issue from resolution is the blatant unwillingness of Cubans in Miami to cast aside personal feelings and treat this like a business matter – with strict objectiveness over unproductive emotional reactions.
This whole thing could have been fixed a LONG time ago but too many of us were duped by the Mas Canosas and the Diaz-Balarts who have a vested interest in making sure that Castro stays in power.
Think about it: the last person that wants to see fat people disappear is Richard Simmons. No fat people, no paycheck.
Ditto for the CANF and others: No Castro, no paycheck.
MTF,
Most of the Cuban people DO NOT support castro.
I agree that too many go to the marches and demonstrations- and even though I know their job is on the line and blah, blah, blah; I blame them in part for doing that… because I think one should stand up for what they believe.
and I am not saying that because I’m here… that’s how I lived my life in Cuba too. Not only did I not say one thing and thought another.. I actively spoke my mind… which got me in more than one confrontation with the “marxist economy” (what an oxymoron!) teachers in college- face to face- no fear…for I knew I was speaking the truth and I could not just sit quitely while this idiot was hablando mierda… and if a little 18 YO student can stand up to a teacher in his 40s other people can too. And to be honest…it wasn’t hard to do..speaking my mind always came naturally- I remember people around me whispering all the time: “sshhh! muchacha callate! te vas a meter en lios” y yo siempre decia: “si todo el mundo dice lo que piensa nadie se mete en lios”
My point is: yes…some people truely support castro- there are all kinds of people. but they are a minority. And yes…I think people in the island should do more… it may sound a little hipocrita of mine…easy for me to say from the comfort of my home in Georgia…what did I ever do, etc… I’m not asking them to do something that could get them in trouble, but at least help by NOT participating in castro’s charades.
MTF,
Lets give you another example. With all the damage that Fidel has caused in terms of death and brutality, how do you expect the majority of the exiles to feel towards those that side with Fidel here?
Suppose you are black and the KKK is out to demonstrate in your community? I can guarantee the black folk in that community will not like it, and at a minimum will counter protest.
Its that simple.
You are absolutely NO authority on living in a totalitarian state. You must remember that the United States withdrew support for Batista in the late 1950’s. In addition Castro received MASSIVE Soviet support. Castro also took power under the pretext of being anti-communist and wanting a true democracy and in effect duping the Cuban people.
Thousands upon thousands of people were executed, and anti-Castro rebellions (especially in the Escambray mountains) lasted for years but were eventually crushed in the face of overwheming Soviet military aid.
The communist indoctrination of the people including gulags were introduced, and like the Soviet Union where communism lasted over 70 years it is not easy to take away.
I hope I introduced some common sense to you with the facts – not the garbage the MSM will and Hollywood will dole out.
So, we are the only ones speaking out against the Stalinist tyranny yet you attempt to shift the blame our way? I hope you are only speaking that way out of ignorance and being misled. Just read through the archives here and perhaps you will educate yourself regarding Cuba if you choose to. Its a free country..
Nuri
If that many people in Cuba were against Castro, why would you have to stand up to the 40 when you were 18?
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Max
Who/what is the MSM?
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Whomever
What about what look likes the intimidation of mob mentality in Miami? I am still trying to figure out why people would attack Miami PD Lt. Schwartz after Elian left Little Havana.
I still remember seeing Cuban exiles throwing bottles and insulting people with bad language and jumping barricades at the Torch of Friendship downtown to physically attack a peaceful demonstration against funding the contras in Nicaragua. That hurt me to see people who were supposed to be for democracy acting like jack-booted brown shirt thugs.
When Los Mu?equitos de Matanzas played on South Beach four years ago, people who just wanted to experience legendary Cuban artists were subjected to some horrible verbal abuse.
If you are going to be for democracy then act like it. Voltaire said that ‘I may not like that you disagree with me but I’ll give up my life to protect your right to disagree with me.’
My family came over with the clothes on their back because they were afraid to stay in Cuba one minute longer (no hyperbole – I mean that literally) but my family also taught me not to be a hypocrite.
Did Jesus teach people to fight the devil with more evil? I remember being taught that Jesus taught us to love both our friends and our enemies.
That is not what the CANF et al has taught an entire generation of young Cubans in Miami who just want to be Cuban and not a hateful person.
Again, Think about it: the last person that wants to see fat people disappear is Richard Simmons. No fat people, no paycheck.
Ditto for the CANF and others: No Castro, no paycheck.
I would also like a well-thought out answer to explain why we cry over September 11th, 2001 and hate Usama bin Laden yet we say nothing about Orlando Bosch.
Hate Cuba with good reasons or great reasons but I still cannot understand how so many people can excuse, ignore, or even celebrate the death of over 80 civilians … many of whom were not even Cuban.
But does it matter if they were Cuban?
They were innocent people who probably did not care any more about politics than the 4,000 people that were killed in the WTC on 9/11/01.
Bosch is not Muslim so why does he get a free pass??
Why are we taught to hate other Cubans so much that we are either indifferent to their deaths or even celebrate it.
We cannot talk about how Fidel Castro or Che Guevara kills people without expressing equal outrage over Orlando Bosch or Luis Posada Carriles killing people.
Murder is murder.
MTF,
It seems your emphasis is on exposing the anti-Castro element as the villains – and somehow casting the regime as the “victim”.
You use a common tactic used by the left of character assasinating the exiles as some looney bin group of people.
Just admit it.. Your true agenda is… Smearing the exiles.., right?
Comparing Bosch to Bin Laden? PUUHHLEEESEE.. I am no fan of Bosch necessarily, but at least he was trying to counter a barbaric regime in a way he thought was right.. Bin Laden just killed innocent people, guilty of…. Living in a free society. Crappy comparison.
As for the incidents you mentioned, how would blacks react if the KKK was being represented? Do you think they would throw hugs and kisses? I don’t blame the exiles one bit for expressing their disgust at those that make excuses or represent a mass-murdering regime.
Its as though you are trying to sweep all the tyranny under the rug,
FACT: Had there been no Stalinist regime in Cuba, there would have been no Bosch. You could argue that Bosch is simply one that fought against the brutal regime anyway he could..FIdel has NO redeeming values.
Spare me the bullcrap. You are on this board freely speaking your mind. Try to do that in Cuba.
By the way,
MSM=main stream media…
“If that many people in Cuba were against Castro, why would you have to stand up to the 40 when you were 18?”
MTF, I don’t understand our question. You are the one saying that maybe a lot of people support him and I know that is not the case. What I said was that not everybody is willing to openly speak their mind. Some people do…
For me it was harder to shut up-
And criminal behavior is criminal behavior. But if I want to protest against people that are supporting castro by going to concerts…then I will…
And I don’t know what Jesus said or didn’t say for in my opinion The Bible was written by men (gosh, am I going to catch hell for this!!!) but I will NOT love my enemies, nor will I treat them the same way I treat my friends.
I do not have a problem with hate, for I believe is as legitimate a feeling as love is.
If somebody kills castro, I do not consider that person a murderer. And yes…some deaths should be celebrated…
..because I don’t believe in this “point-of-view” kind of crap. There is wrong, and there is right. Sure, there is some grey in life! but there’s also black and white.
Do I have all the answers? of course! (ji, ji)and I also know what’s right and what’s wrong-
One more thing, if we were to use your argument, then all of the freedom fighters during WW2 that struggled against TRUE oppression such as the Nazis and rose against the Russians in Hungary can also be compared to Bin Laden.
The context is, Cuba is a totalitarian state guilty of the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people for no apparent reason.
Please do NOT even attempt to lump the United States in such a position because it is NOT a barbaric state with thousands of people trying to leave it by any means they can, like Cuba.
I don’t mind discussing different viewpoints but I will not accept outright distortions and slander.
Nuri
Are you Muslim?
“I will NOT love my enemies, nor will I treat them the same way I treat my friends.
I do not have a problem with hate, for I believe is as legitimate a feeling as love is.
If somebody kills castro, I do not consider that person a murderer. And yes…some deaths should be celebrated…”
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Max
Saying that you don’t mind discussing differing points of view but not demonstrating that you know or care about the difference between a difference of opinion and “slander and distortion” is quite of concern.
What is even more troubling is that you appear to be very quick to execute distortions yourself by putting words in my mouth.
Bad form Max, bad form.
Nothing in my argument can be fairly taken to mean that I would regard the Russians beating back the Nazis out of the killing fields all across western USSR or American GI’s and British Tommies liberating death camps (where Jews, Catholics, Gypsies, Muslims, Black people – at least 8,000 African-Americans trapped in Berlin who had lived in Germany for years, trade unionists, academics, Communists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, etc) as being anything at all like what Usama bin Laden has been doing over the years.
I will not get into a debate on the actual number of people killed by the Castro government as I don’t have exact numbers and at this point numbers are pointless. Bottomline – people were killed and death is a tragedy.
It is not for us to determine who is fit to live and who is not. That is God’s and God’s alone.
I will take issue with your assertion that people died for no apparent reason. I respectfully disagree. They were killed for a variety of reasons and most of those reasons are reasons that many will not like but they are still reasons. Most probably died because they disagreed with the revolution or because they tought that Castro was bad for Cuba. We might not like those reasons but they are still reasons.
Please don’t try to twist this into a morality play. The reasons may have been horrible reasons but,a gain, there were still reasons.
As far as the United States not being a barbaric state, I will beg to differ on this point as well.
If we look merely at the state of Texas, the Lone Star state keeps more people locked up per capita than even the Chinese.
No other country on Earth keeps as high a percentage of its citizens locked up as our country does. Now you can say that it is because they are all criminals but that would sound like the argument one would hear about why people are locked up in Cuba. Again, we may not like it, we may not agree, it may be a lie but arguments can be made on both sides.
I am troubled by this country’s continued and ineffectual belligerence towards Cuba. It is not working. Look at our relations with China. Doing business and playing nice with the Chinese has brought that country to the point where American businesspeople are going over there and getting richer all of the time. At the same time, the grip of the central government is yielding – however slowly – the pull of the dollar.
Had a similar approach been taken with Cuba from the onset the Cuba we would see today would look less like it does now and it would look likely much more like something that all sides could agree on.
Why is this not happening?
Simple and here is my heretofore unanswered, unacknowledged question
the last person that wants to see fat people disappear is Richard Simmons. No fat people, no paycheck.
Ditto for the CANF and others: No Castro, no paycheck.
**Smearing the exiles? How dare you try to put such nonsense in my mouth? By calling Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada Carriles terrorists I am trying to smear my family, my neighbors, my home?
MTF,
You just called the United States barbaric.
Listen. You have a right (in this country that you call “barbaric”) to have your own opinion, however wrong it is. You seem to take this for granted, I don’t.
You just proved my point. You are slandering (YES SLANDERING) a country that has fought to defend freedom more than any other.
I may have “bad form” according to your extremely
feeble and ill founded opinions, but at least I base my opinion on facts.
I was not referring to the GIs or Tommys in WW2, but the resistance fighters, where there may have been the unfortunate loss of innocent life.
Are we to condemn them when they fought tyranny?
“I will not get into a debate on the actual number of people killed by the Castro government as I don’t have exact numbers and at this point numbers are pointless. Bottomline – people were killed and death is a tragedy.”
You wont, but I will. Thousands shot at the Paredon, including children. Thousands more imprisoned, many more thousands dead in the Florida straights HEADED IN ONLY ONE DIRECTION, AWAY FROM THE TYRANNY.
“It is not for us to determine who is fit to live and who is not. That is God’s and God’s alone.”
Then you must think Fidel is God.. He routinely took lives.
“I will take issue with your assertion that people died for no apparent reason. I respectfully disagree. They were killed for a variety of reasons and most of those reasons are reasons that many will not like but they are still reasons. Most probably died because they disagreed with the revolution or because they tought that Castro was bad for Cuba. We might not like those reasons but they are still reasons.”
I can summarize the reasons those people killed by Castro were killed. To suppress dissent and to keep himself in power. And you defend this? Talk about bad form.
“Please don’t try to twist this into a morality play. The reasons may have been horrible reasons but,a gain, there were still reasons.”
It doesnt need to be twisted, it is reality for the reasons I have stated. To stay in power.
“If we look merely at the state of Texas, the Lone Star state keeps more people locked up per capita than even the Chinese. ”
Texas may lock up criminals. The Chinese kill female babies because they are FEMALES. Very “bad form”.. What are you smoking?
“No other country on Earth keeps as high a percentage of its citizens locked up as our country does.”
Cuba does on a per-Capita basis. I challenge you to prove otherwise. And while rapists may be locked up in Texas, someone will be locked up in Cuba for simply wanting free speech.
“I am troubled by this country’s continued and ineffectual belligerence towards Cuba. It is not working. Look at our relations with China.”
One wrong thing (trade with barbaric China) does not justify trade with Cuba.
Listen, get off the kool-aid learn your facts, and come back. Otherwise, go and live in Cuba if it is so good.
“How dare you try to put such nonsense in my mouth?”
The nonsense comes out on its own, I don’t need to put any in.
I have pointed out all the facts to you
Ay Dios….
Max,
Your comments and my responses:
“You just proved my point. You are slandering (YES SLANDERING) a country that has fought to defend freedom more than any other.”
Slander would mean that I lied.
Where in my what I wrote (and not what you are trying to put in my mouth) did I tell a lie about the United States?
An ugly fact may be ugly but it does not dimish the fact.
Locking up loyal Americans who just happened to be of Japanese descent was ugly but it happened. This is not slander. It is the truth, a truth the US government itself has admitted and expressed contrition for.
If the US government itself is not trying to cover something up why are you? What are you trying to hide?
“I may have “bad form” according to your extremely feeble and ill founded opinions, but at least I base my opinion on facts.
I was not referring to the GIs or Tommys in WW2, but the resistance fighters, where there may have been the unfortunate loss of innocent life.
Are we to condemn them when they fought tyranny?”
GI’s, Tommies, resistance fighters – they all had one thing in common: they had a cause they believed in and they took appropriate action against it when they took up arms against military targets not civilian aircraft filled with innocent people.
Stop trying to defend the Cuban bin Laden.
“Then you must think Fidel is God.. He routinely took lives.”
Where did I say that?
Do you cheat in cards too?
“I can summarize the reasons those people killed by Castro were killed. To suppress dissent and to keep himself in power. And you defend this? Talk about bad form.”
Where did I defend this??
Are you reading what is there or are you reading what you want to see?
“It doesnt need to be twisted, it is reality for the reasons I have stated. To stay in power.”
That “reality” is what I stated previously. The record shows that.
“The Chinese kill female babies because they are FEMALES. Very “bad form”.. What are you smoking?”
So how does China’s population keep growing if females are being killed?
Hmm?
Max, you have a peculiar memory because that was true of China … Imperial China.
That went out with the practice of “foot wrapping.”
“Cuba does on a per-Capita basis.”
Post your figures please.
No one – certainly not I – said nor hinted at Cuba not having its own prison population of significance but it is a FACT, a well-documented fact (hence not slander) that our county does a brisk business in terms of incarcerating a large number of the population … many are poor, Black, and male.
Are you going to say that I’m a racist now too?
“One wrong thing (trade with barbaric China) does not justify trade with Cuba.”
So the loosening of the totalitarian status quo in China is a “wrong thing?”
Max
It is evident that you are not interested in an intelligent and respectful exchange of ideas (again, a pillar of democracy).
The hard thing about some people is that, in being so blindly anti-Cuba, they don’t realize how much like a dictator they too become.
Look, one caudillo is enough.
funny you should say that cuz cuban americans are the most violent people in the us, ready to block roads, engage in murder and terrorism (blowing up a cubana aircraft)-you all are the most violent bunch of asses. maybe you should go live in the middle east instead of our great republic with your violent latin american ways.
MTF,
“Slander would mean that I lied.”
Yes you did.
“Where in my what I wrote (and not what you are trying to put in my mouth) did I tell a lie about the United States?”
Quote,
“As far as the United States not being a barbaric state, I will beg to differ on this point as well”
“Locking up loyal Americans who just happened to be of Japanese descent was ugly but it happened. This is not slander. It is the truth, a truth the US government itself has admitted and expressed contrition for.”
That was during a time of war. The United States admitted its mistake. I never said it was perfect. It is PERFECT compared to your barbaric Cuban regime. But you won’t mention that, because it is against your agenda. Has Fidel apologized for all the executions?
“GI’s, Tommies, resistance fighters – they all had one thing in common: they had a cause they believed in and they took appropriate action against it when they took up arms against military targets not civilian aircraft filled with innocent people.”
Wrong!!! In war innocent people get killed accidently. Not to be confused with Fidel’s and Stalins efficient use of killing.
“Then you must think Fidel is God.. He routinely took lives.”
Where did I say that?
Quote,
“It is not for us to determine who is fit to live and who is not. That is God’s and God’s alone.” So since Fidel CHOOSES to kill you are insinuating he is god?
Caught you in another lie.
“They were killed for a variety of reasons and most of those reasons are reasons that many will not like but they are still reasons.”
That’s where you defended Fidel.
http://www.netforcuba.org/News-EN/2003/Sep/News243.htm (you can also find it on BBC)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4422567.stm
Now you post your figures. Please quote a reputable source, and not something like http://www.granma.cu, ok?
This will be the last time I will say this.
People are incarcerated in the US because they are CRIMINALS. THAT is not the case in Cuba where many are incarcerated for speaking out!
I rest my case.
“The Chinese kill female babies because they are FEMALES.”
http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue05/population.htm
Take your head out of the sand,
“Are you going to say that I’m a racist now too?”
You are proving that better than I can with your posts.
“So the loosening of the totalitarian status quo in China is a “wrong thing?”
Where is the loosening?
“It is evident that you are not interested in an intelligent and respectful exchange of ideas”
It is evident that YOU are interested in exchange of false ideas based on outright lies, untruths and slander. I am not.
Keep your opinion however wrong and misguided it is. No one will send you to jail for having them. I can not stop you from your perverted viewpoints based on non-facts to justify your agenda.
That is not the case in Cuba. What the hell are you doing here if you think there is so much wrong.?
khristine,
You’re an asshole..
Why don’t you get on a raft and head to Cuba?
khristine-Cuban Americans the most violent? Not based on prison population of violent offenders, they’re not. If what you say is true Janet Reno wouldn’t be safe to walk the streets of Miami which she does freely so I suggest you take your hate filled lies and leave.
Nuri
Are you Muslim?
“I will NOT love my enemies, nor will I treat them the same way I treat my friends.
I do not have a problem with hate, for I believe is as legitimate a feeling as love is.
If somebody kills castro, I do not consider that person a murderer. And yes…some deaths should be celebrated…”
Is that the best you can do? Man, you’re weak!!!
Yes I said those things…and I believe them.
What?! Are you incapable of hating? Then you’re incapable of loving as well.
Do you think everyone’s life is worth the same? There is something wrong with you then. To me, the life of a murderer, for instance…is worth far less than that of a child, or that of a family man…
Aren’t you happy that Hitler died? Aren’t you happy that Ted Bundy was put to death? Dude- re-check your concience…or try to find it-
Are you muslim?!!!! lol!!! ja! ja! Yeah…I’m wearing my face and body cover right now and I look mighty sexy in it!
Hassan,
Se que te esta pagando el gobierno Cubano para hablar mierda.
Le descarge a MTF porque no estuvistes tu.
Por hablar mierda y mentiras..
Tienes diarea de la boca. Like I said before..
Stick broken glass up your commie ass!
?Asi que el gobierno Cubano me ‘sta pagando?
No joda chico!
Y ?cuanto me ‘sta pagando ellos? por que quiero saber si tengo plata para mi viaja a Epcot Center el mes que viene
Tu sabes que Mickey Mouse es CARO!!
Oye, si el pago mio de ellos es bueno, ?quiere que yo mando dinero a la familia tuyo en Cuba?
Pa’ ti mi hermano, lo hago.
Hassan, go get a life together with Khristine and MTF. Instead of going to Epcot next month, take Max’s suggestion and get on a raft back to Cuba. On the way, when you meet the REAL rafts, you know those that only go ONE WAY, AWAY FROM CUBA give them the money you were going to spend on Epcot.
Why you people choose to come here to spill your venom is beyond me. You do not offend us, as we are holders of the truth. You are wasting your precious time, and breath, or perhaps not….since it seems you have nothing better to do that cheap shots at ruffling our feathers.
Por favor gente, get a real life!
La Ventanita,
Well said..
What a sad life. No sane person would want to do what he’s doing unless he is getting paid. I just know that our cause is righteous.
Hassan, Please go find a blog more suited for your (communist) tastes. You are a masochist getting your ass whipped constantly. You will NEVER win, no matter what.
If you don’t want to go all the way to Cuba, find a nice large, hungry shark, make yourself useful to support the food chain and ecology.
Ok? MOW GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Ventanita
What are you talking about?
A few folks here have already figured out that a lot of what I post here has little intellectual value because when I tried to post honest, candid views, it was deleted.
My thoughts now are ‘to heck’ with that.
I am surprised that MTC’s comments were not deleted not because he was disrespectful or pro-Castro (I see none of either in his comments) but because he refused to say “Yes, Max you are so right and I am a dumbufck next to you when it comes to Cuba.”
I have expressed my opinion that the only views allowed to be expressed here are those consistent with Val’s, George’s, yours, or even Ziva’s (I would say Max’s too but I don’t think he is capable of agreeing with himself).
I understand that this is Val’s website and that affords quite a bit of say-so however, since so much space on this blog is supposedly dedicated to promotion of democracy why are opposing points of view squashed so quickly?
Someone in this discussion kept asking MTC about Blacks and the KKK in this country. That was not answered perhaps because he was unable to do so. I can offer a little bit of insight about why perhaps African-Americans – collectively – do not respond to the Klan in ways that nuri or Bosch would find “appropriate.” Perhaps it can be because that some people know that in infringing upon the right of someone else to think differently, speak differently from oneself sets a dangerous precedence in that if a rule can be bent in your favor who is to say that the same rule cannot be bent in the same manner to benefit your enemy?
I don’t like double-standards and I don’t like to hear people talk about democracy but appear to be so unwillingly, Godforbid so unable to walk the walk.
I would MUCH rather engage in ADULT INTERACTIONS here as I do on other online forums but i will not allow anyone to play by rules that they themselves are not prepared to abide by.
Again, i understand this is Val Prieto’s website and God bless him – seriously – he has given himself an outlet for expression of his opinion as it relates to his vision of Cuba and democracy.
I continue to come here because i feel i have the right – as a Cuban – to add my input about what i feel is best for Cuba and democracy. I learned a long time ago that the best way to realize truth is to let differing points of view upon each other and let the process reveal the truth.
I’m not afraid of whatever people here have to say. I’m a Miami guy too.
Dolphin fan from ever since – even when they sucked.
Ditto for the Heat.
Publix’ generic ice tea mix on a hot day is still a pleasure.
Going to eat at the original La Carretta at 3 or 5 o’clock in the morning because I can is something i love.
Fond memories of the old Firestone garage on 12th avenue ….
Being there for my grandmother when she cried because she could not lay flowers at the final resting place of her baby, dead in infancy because she was back in Cuba ….
I still take friends visiting Miami to eat at Versailles because – politics aside – that is still part of the Miami experience.
Val is Cuban
George is Cuban
Ventanita is Cuban
hassan is Cuban too.
Y’all may not like it but I’m not going anywhere and guess what I don’t want y’all to go anywhere either.
Agree or disagree, Cuba will never really realize her full potential until her children stop fighting and start working together PA’ CUBA.
I might regard you guys as first class jerks some times (okay most times) but you’re Cubans too and for that if nothing else I love you and i’ll never wish bad on you.
“If I was not already Cuban, I would like to become one.” – Jos? Mart
Hassan,
First of it was MTF not MTC
Second, I remember Blacks YES BLACKS protesting and insulting Cubans in Miami during the Elian issue
Third, Fidel Castro is Cuban too. That doesn’t mean I have to agree to disagree with him, or take his point of view as valid, or even have to listen to him. And if you think I will stop fighting against him or anyone else supporting his view you are sadly mistaken.
Venta’
Where did you get that i told you to agree with Castro?
Caramba, in a short span of time he will be a moot point.
Castro will be gone soon … heck none of us is guaranteed to be here past next second or next year or next decade.
My hope is that in whatever time we each have here on Earth we will work for Cuba because – con el favor de Dios – Cuba will be around for a long long time.
My ONLY concern is that whatever is going to best for Cuba so that my children’s children’s children can enjoy all that Cuba has to offer: warm skies, soothing waters, fertile soil, happy people, jaw-dropping vistas, proud history.
*What does “Blacks insulting Cubans” have to do with this discussion?
Someone, creo que Max, asked MTF como dos veces about Blacks and the KKK so I tried to address as an example of taking the higher road.
Raul Saul Sanchez is someone whose politics I do not typically agree with but I have to give that man credit. Politics aside, i respect his approach. I would much rather see someone calmly, gently trying to get his/her point across about something that he/she feels strongly about in a way that sends a strong message without infringing upon the rights of others. From what i have seen over the years, Manolito tries to do that.
I disagree with his politics but so what? my brother is a Raiders fan.
?Y que?
My beloved grandmother and my madrina would not speak to me FOR WEEKS about the Elian Gonzalez thing but we did not stop loving each other.
Ellas estaban BRAVA con migo – BRAVA but not so mad that they were going to let something as subjective as politics – even Cuban politics – get in the way of amor y cari?o.
Venta, you feel the way that your heart and your mind tells you to feel about Cuba and Castro and our country’s future. That is your right and I will support that right even if, no especially because it is different from mine.
Cuba has never had true democracy (sorry pero Estrada Palma, Gomez, Machado, Prio, Grau, Batista, et al were NOT good for Cuba) and I would like to see rule of law, ethics, freedom of expression, the right to have a decent life for one’s family for all Cubans before i die.
I am willing to work for that and if putting up con abuso de com*m**rdas aqui is part of the price, bueno, lo pago.
A free and dignified and sovereign Cuba is worth that price and then some.
So Venta’, si quieres hablar conmigo sin abuso ni falta de respeto fine let’s talk. Si no, bueno sigo resando pa’ ti mi linda Cubana.
Hassan,
Fidel is to the Cuban people what Hitler was to the jews.
Fidel’s regime is to the Cuban people what the KKK is to the blacks.
Fidel is to the Cuban people what Josef Stalin was to the Russian people.
Fidel is to the Cuban people what Mao Tse Tung is to the the Chinese.
Fidel is to the Cuban people what Caligula was to Rome.
Get it? I guarantee most of us feel like that. If you don’t want to accept that that is YOUR problem.
Hassan- This blog is not for the promotion of democracy, this blog is to share the truth about castro’s cuba and Cuban Americans. It is Val’s home and while polite dissent is more than welcome, endless ignorant trolling with no other purpose than to disagree with or insult the host and his family is not acceptable. You have only shown yourself to be among the latter. You think you have a right to come here and express your opinon? Wrong!!! You have no rights here at all. This is not a public establishment, it’s private like a cafe house with a sign stating, “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone…”. Get it? If you want a soapbox go start your own blog. Adios.
“This blog is not for the promotion of democracy”
Wow.
How enlightening…and depressing.
I cannot believe I am reading what I am reading.
Ziva said that “this blog is not for the promotion of democracy.”
Wow.
“This blog is not for the promotion of democracy, this blog is to share the truth about castro’s cuba and Cuban Americans.” – ziva
So the truth about Cuba and Cuban Americans is inconsistent with democracy?
What are you saying ziva??
You guys are misreading what Ziva said. Our focus, our mission, at BabaluBlog is to disseminate the Truth (with a capital “T”) about Cuba. The specific purpose of this blog is precisely what she stated. We do not espouse “democracy” per se. By our words and our actions, however, we do espouse liberty and all the accoutrements that derive from it: capitalism and free markets, a representative government with free and fair elections (whether parliamentary or a republic, as in the US, since we are not a “democracy”). The citizens of a country built upon liberty have the right to believe in whatever religion they want, but not the right to impose it on others; the right to think; the right to speak their opinion, but not the right to be heard; the right to bear arms against a tyrannical government; the right to vote; the right to a fair trial without unjust imprisonment.
Liberty. For us, for Cuba, and for all other enslaved nations. That is what is espoused here with every word we write — and the actions we take. If you can’t see that, you’re not reading closely enough.
I missed this earlier, but I couldn’t have said it better than George, thanks fellow Babalusian.
You are most welcome…