Definitions, and a Murderer Named Ernesto

Or, Che Guevara est mortuus

Heard a Mexican-American caller last night on local talk radio berating the Cuban-American community for its lack of support of this week’s protests by La Raza, etal, around the country. His gripe, as you can imagine, was that according to him, Cuban “immigrants” get special treatment from the US government. And since we all speak Spanish, you see, we are all the same and thus, the Cuban-American community has betrayed their “Latino” and “Hispanic” brothers and sisters in arms because we didn’t support their cause while receiving said preferential treatment.

Since so many of the protesters are skipping school to take back their lands via la Reconquista, I thought I’d offer up a quick vocabulary lesson that will hopefully clear up the “we’re the same” misconception:

One who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution.

im·mi·grant n. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.

Contrary to what today’s media prefers to call Cubans who risk their lives to reach US shores – lately the term has been “migrants” – those Cubans are fleeing political oppression and are, thus, refugees. As I stated in a previous post, when Mexican “migrants” are faced with systematic violations of every basic human and civil right as the people of Cuba are, then perhaps I would accept a similarity.

What I will never accept, however, is the undignified treatment of a symbol of the United States of America under the caveat that as a “latino” or “hispanic” it is done on my behalf. While this country may not be perfect, it offered me refuge and the freedom to be me and I take great umbrage when an American flag is desecrated supposedly in my name. That’s my flag that was being burned. That’s my flag that was being hung upside-down and below the flag of another nation on my own soil.

And if disrespecting my American flag wasn’t enough, many of these protesters are proudly donning the image of the Butcher of La Cabaña himself, none other than che guevara:


Now, if you think you can criticize me for not supporting your protest while insulting me by desecrating the flag of the country that has taken my family in and offered me liberty and prosperity, and then all the while proudly displaying the image of a man who murdered countless of Cubans and was instrumental in the destruction of my country of birth and the reason for my family having to seek refuge in the first place, you got another thing coming.

That man on your t-shirt stands for everything that I and my community detest and what we passionately and painstakingly fight against. And too many courageous and noble Americans and Cubans gave their lives fighting the likes of the very same man whom you seem to revere. So don’t come to me asking for my support. Youre not going to get it. I dont care what your cause is. Not while I still breathe and you’re lauding che guevara.

And if I may offer a few words of advise to my protesting “brothers and sisters”: Before you choose a hero like che guevara for your cause, better do your homework first. Here’s a start:

The Real Che Guevara
Guevara: Anatomy of a Myth.
The Real Che by Anthony Daniels
The Killing Machine
Ruthless Killer
Che Guevara
Murdered by Che
Debunking the Che Myth

25 thoughts on “Definitions, and a Murderer Named Ernesto”

  1. I wonder how much self-righteousness there would be if the Spanish military arrived one day to do their own reconquista? Would everyone agree that they have a right to take back what was taken from them? I doubt it.

    Once a treaty is signed, it’s signed. Time to get over it.

  2. Here’s another thing to consider about the differences between Cuban-Americans and Mexican Americans. The US has a direct hand in Cuba’s plight today. Starting with the failure of the State Dept. to grasp that castro was a communist, withdrawing support of the previous regime (signaling its end and giving castro carte blanche), botching the bay of pigs, negotiating away Cubans right to overthrow castro (in the Cuban missile crisis) and otherwise standing around while castro gets away with everything.

    Mexico can’t blame the US for it’s century of 1-party rule or the corrupt politicians it has but Cuba can blame the US (at least partially) for it’s half century of 1-party rule and the corrupt politicians it has.

  3. I would go one further, there were individuals in the State Department who purposely withheld their knowledge of castro communist activities because they themselves were sympathizers. The US owes Cuba big time for the 47 years of hell she’s endured.

  4. Could someone help me out here, I thought “hispanic” was politically incorrect. did that change? when did this “La Raza” crap start? if someone would be so kind as to give me a short history lesson…

  5. I’ve been wanting to stay out of the Hispanic debate because I work in Hispanic Marketing. The word Hispanic is not politically incorrect, however on the west coast and places where Spanish speakers tend to be Mexican the favored term is Latino. We could write a book about whether these descriptors are valid or not but let’s not. The main thing I want to mention is that even though Cubans are not the same as Mexican are not the same as Venezuelans, etc. we do have a common a language and a common tie to our mother country of Spain. As a marketer I don’t want my clients to get hung up on the differences between Spanish speaking groups. I want them to understand that there are commonalities. As I said, language is one. But also certain aspects such as family values, religiosity, etc. I have to use the word Hispanic all the time, I prefer it to Latino. But when people ask me what I do I usually tell them I work in Spanish language advertising. But when you get down to it’s not Spanish marketing because that would imply marketing to a small number of Spaniards that live in the US.

    Can’t we all just get along?

    Also I will say this. Val is right that many of these Mexicans love Fidel and Che and are anti-american. But there were a lot of American flags in those crowds too. And although their plight is different, I still sympathize with anyone that wants to come to this country for a better life. I would put up a wall and begin deporting illegals while dramatically increasing the number of visas that are given to Mexicans. But that’s just my opinion, what do I know?

  6. “Hispanic”, “Latino” whatever …

    Who cares about “politically incorrect” pkrupa?
    Call me “American” first. When I took the oath to become a citizen, I became that first.

    When Mexicans want the same benefits without taking the oath, or take that oath with intentions of breaking it, that pisses me off.

    When Democrats take advantage of this and kiss up to these dregs, THAT REALLY pisses me off.

  7. conductor,

    According to multiculturalism in psychology here is how it goes (I too worked in Hispanic Marketing Advertising):

    Hispanic implies someone that has Spanish heritage – mainly most of us – because it has its roots in the term Hispania or something.

    Latino – was created by Hispanics, as a way to empower themselves, and include those not of Spanish ancestry such as Brazil who also are part of Latin America, errr, South America.

    My spouse who is Chilean and has been in this country for 5.5 years will not go by either one – identifies them with some sort of Anti US thing.

  8. Yo lo que quisiera saber es para que carajo los mexicanos quieren a California si tienen el pais entero hecho mierda para que quieren mas tierra si la que tienen no la cuidan

  9. Val thank you for another great post on defending freedom and opposing those that bow to totalitarianism.

    I have linked this post on my blog.


  10. Val,
    Thank you for clearly making a point I tried to make here a while ago in an earlier comment. I think legal immigration can and should be increased, but only after the border is under control. We should however, be ready to welcome refugees any time. Anyone in Cuba who is not a professional criminal or an agent of Castro is qualified as a refugee. Those fleeing tyrany should always be welcome in the US, those fleeing economic hardship, no matter how much we sympathize, must be controlled more.

    I look forward to the day when Cubans, like Mexicans, want to come here only for economic reasons. Until then I think we take all who can get here.

  11. Val,

    Very well said. These people have similarities with the indigenous movements throughout central and South America such as in Bolivia, Uruguay and Ecuador. They seek to take their continents under the false pretense of it being theirs!
    No respect for anyone else’s property, just a false sense of entitlement and a desire to put is in the stone age. Sounds familiar to what happened in Cuba.
    Damn idiots!

  12. Those Chileans won’t put up with being called Latinos. They just don’t tolerate the term at all. They are an exceptional country and don’t want to even remotely be associated with Latin American Idiots who make a mess everywhere they go and can be found in all countries (though not inside Cuba or in Miami) where castro is worshiped. Chileans will have no part of that. Venti is right.

  13. I personally don’t have a problem with the term “Hispanic” since it implies a link to Spain which is undeniable for all of those from Spanish-speaking countries. It’s part of our cultural and ethnic makeup and I don’t believe that term taken in its true context is harmful.

    “Latino” is much more ambiguous and is more associated with empowerment, as has already been mentioned. This one I’m not crazy about for those reasons and others.

    What I really don’t like is when people refer to Hispanics as a race or as “people of color”. It’s not because of a white superiority thing. Your skin color is what it is and does not define the person. It’s just inaccurate and doesn’t acknowledge the true diversity that exists within Hispanics.

  14. Referencing Conductor’s post of March 31, again want to remind that Mexico too had a hand in Cuba’s tragedy, by allowing kaSStro and his other dregs, like che(ckmated) to roam around with little or no interference, on Mexican soil, from mid-’55 to late in ’56, planning the mischief they were to inflict on sovereign Cuba. So, as far as I am concerned, I MAY have some sympathy for these “brothers” some day when they start helping undo the damage their “manitos” allowed the kaSStro-dregs to inflict on Cuba! And first, they’ll have to lose the damn che(ckmated) t-shirts. In return, I promise not to wear a General Pershing t-shirt. That’s American fair play in action.

    And, by the way, before these types complain too much about the “attitude” the “gringos” are supposed to have against them, they oughta become acquainted with some of the attitudes I have heard expressed by other Spanish-speaking assumed “kindred blood brothers” against them, which cannot be repeated here. Suffice it to say that, were they to try similar protests in certain lands where so-called Hispanic culture is dominant, they might consider themselves lucky just to be clubbed unconscious.

  15. Good points, Robert. I like Latino because it’s the term my Nicaraguan Freedom Fighter friends used during the contra war against communism. They were the first to use it and I say it in their honor. The other reason I use it is I can include more people. Latino includes Italians and since I am Italian Swiss, I get in just under the limbo stick with that label. My rightwing Mexican friends cannot stand Chicano, that, to them, is the grossest insult ever heard and prefer Mexican. None of this touches on the American/norteamericano issue. Oh the mess with semantics there is out there on all affairs concerning our common hemisphere!!!!

  16. Here’s another problem with Hispanic/Latino: I know people named Krause, Hasan, Heinz, Reynolds, Souverbielle, Chelminski, Branger, and other grand old South American names. The president of Mexico is named Fox, the president of Guatemala is named Berger, the president of El Salvador is named Saca, the president of Argy is named Kirchner, the president of Chile is named Bachelet, the president of Peru was named Fujimori. More ‘Hispanic’ names all right! Some Hispanics! I guess you could argue that their language makes them Hispanic but’s kind of like the problem of calling all US whites ‘Anglos’ – most of us most are not of English extraction, certainly not me.


  17. Alberto is right: Most other Latin Americans consider Mexicans gross and uncouth. Central Americans refer to Mexico as ‘El Pozo’ – or, The Pit. But that’s not all they say! Ooh, there’s unprintable stuff out there about Mexicans.

    Not that they deserve worse opprobrium than the purely evil castro and the boorish uncouth Chavez.

  18. Here in California, all the schools celebrate Cinco de Mayo. What the shit is that about? Of course, it’s not educating kids about how Mexico is one of the most corrupt & dangerous hellholes on the planet, it’s all about their glorious history blah blah blah. Why are American students served this propaganda?

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