Check this video out on Drudge. A caller to a C-SPAN show let Jimmy have it and was cut off. But that’s not the fun part; listen to Jimmah’s explanation. If ever there was a definition of bullshit, it’s this.
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Outboard motors don’t do well in the Jimmy Carter River of BULLSHIT! What a fucking idiot!!!!!
Never voted for him. Not sure I’d diss him that badly.
man i am going to get in so much trouble for this, but i truly believe there is a difference between being an anti semite and anti zionist.. and im not defending carter in any way, he may be an idiot and moron and a bunch of other stuff, but an anti semite is not one of the things id call him.. being an ally to israel has caused as many problems as it has solved, and relatives of victims the uss liberty would agree to that, the pollard episode, israeli spies “discovering” the clinton-lewinsky chitchat, even if helped smear slick willy, why are they tapping a friendly nations phone?, theres a long list of operatrions the osraelis ran in this country and not all of them were aimed at plo/ arab terror fronts.. i apologize now if its a hornets nest..
Daniel, I understand about all of the problems we’ve had with Israel. But even with all of the issues you mentioned, they have been a stalwart, though independent, ally — the only reliable ally in that region of the world, as a matter of fact. Whether you like it or not, Israel is the lynchpin to our survival: If Israel goes, so goes the West.
BTW, the term “anti-zionist” is used universally by anti-semites that’re still in the closet. They’re still reading The Protocols by flashlight lest they be discovered…
I seeth when I hear this man speak. His bungling of the economy ruined my family’s business in the 80’s. Thank God for Ronnie.
Daniel, the state of Israel may be criticized just as any other nation may be criticized. I would however discard the term anti-Zionist because it is synonymous with anti-Semitism. You cannot separate the two terms. Zionism is nothing more than the right of Jewsish survival. The word Zionist has been revised for propaganda purposes. This concept is explained in great detail here:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=7382
As for Carter, I believe he is a narrow minded bigot period. His words and deeds speak for themselves.
I can’t bring myself to watch the clip. I remember back to Eisenhower, and Carter is still the all-around worst President in my lifetime. The longer he keeps injecting himself into politics, the more solid his position becomes.
wow, i am so glad its a discussion and not a war.. im gonna read through your link ziva, but today is a busy day im at the field all day, we need to get a stadium ready for january.. george, youre a pretty well read guy, the uss liberty, ever read or hear `the conspiracy theories that it was one of the famous, patented “inside jobs” to draw the us in to attacking egypt? there are those that say israel did it to set up egypt, that the us let it happen to have in excuse, fidel did it cause he was still bitter at kennedy (thats a joke, but you never really know do you) pick your theory..
i understand that its better to be in bed with them than with anyone else in the reigon, but with the support and aid theyve received, and when no one was there to help the us stepped up (to a degree, at times, the brits) and then they turn around and spy on us, it just smacks ungreatful.. btw, remember carter followed the only president never to be elected (im pretty sure this is the case, history buffs henry or george can confirm).. if there is no watergate, there is no carter.. and watergate was a nasty sorid affair.. you think kennedy is a coverup wait till you pick at the scab that is watergate..
Daniel, there is absolutely no credible evidence that the Liberty incident was anything other than a tragic mistake, conspiracy theories notwithstanding. Accidents of this type happen in the midst of war.
In 1988, the U.S. Navy mistakenly downed an Iranian passenger plane, killing 290 civilians. During the Gulf War, 35 of the 148 Americans who died in battle were killed by friendly fire. In April 1994, two U.S. Black Hawk helicopters with large U.S. flags painted on each side were shot down by U.S. Air Force F-15s on a clear day in the “no fly” zone of Iraq, killing 26 people. In April 2002, an American F-16 dropped a bomb that killed four Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan. In fact, the day before the Liberty was attacked, Israeli pilots accidentally bombed one of their own armored columns.
Retired Admiral, Shlomo Erell, who was Chief of the Navy in Israel in June 1967, told the Associated Press (June 5, 1977): “No one would ever have dreamt that an American ship would be there. Even the United States didn’t know where its ship was. We were advised by the proper authorities that there was no American ship within 100 miles.”
i just mentioned the conspiracy theories cause like they say, some people will believe anything.. occams razor, more or less its sometimes the easiest solution or answer that is the right one.. btw thanks for the link to that article..
Let me chime in, Daniel, and encourage you to get some good books on the history of Jews in the West, from 70 AD onward. Anti-semites will grasp any straw to justify their bigotry, as unfounded as it may be. I also encourage you to examine the impact of Jewish persecution upon the various countries that have fostered it for two millenia. It is a fascinating study.
It is my understanding that former President Carter encourage the Sha’s generals to surrended and then the Ayatolla executed them. Does anybody have a good reference on that.
Larry, here’s the short version:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/12/164726.shtml
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/844757/posts
Moneo said “Whether you like it or not, Israel is the lynchpin to our survival: If Israel goes, so goes the West.”
So you are justifying the apparent crimes of the Israeli government?
If any one is serious about human rights, and I know many Cuban-Americans are, then you would know that violations of international humanitarian law are unacceptable.
And the Israeli government is responsible for many crimes.
To what extent would you allow Israel to commit further atrocities and continue to justify it and them as the “lynchpin to our survival”?
Ah, human rights.. “one question”, this is a loaded topic.. castro bad, pinochet good.. stalin bad, franco good, pol pot bad, castelo branco good.. ortega bad, trujillo good.. or is it the other way around? see the problem, and this is a “simple generalization” its that for the most part, one side will decry human rights violation on ‘their’ side but turn a blind eye to the other.. sure, the israeli govt commits crimes, but is the palestinian authority doing their part to prevent ‘crimes’ or acts of terrorism by the palestinians? what about the british against the irish? or the spanish and the french against the basques? these problems have been going on since time eternal.. its a sticky issue. if torture of 25 muslims, 20 of them linked to terrorism and 5 of mistaken identity could have prevented 9/11, would you approve? just something to think about..
and we still get stuff like this (nytimes report on the iran conference on the holocast):
Beyond questioning the Holocaust, [Iranian president Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad has said the Jews have used it as a propaganda tool to promote Israel’s interests. Since several European countries make Holocaust denial a crime, he says scholars there are not free to do honest research on the subject. …
The conference does not mean that Iran “denies the crimes of Hitler,” [said Deputy Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mohammadi]. “Since we are not accused and responsible for the Holocaust, we are an impartial judge.” …
Daniel,
I think your assumptions are incorrect. I was concentrating on Moneo’s comments, not exactly a broad discussion on disregard for human rights in warfare.
Agreed, we should not turn a blind eye to crimes committed by both parties, but there is precedence for acts. And, when crimes have clearly been committed, then we can condemn them outright.
But, should we choose to justify all of them when we think a greater good shall result in the end? No doubt such an action should be argued, but in the case of Israel, with vast resources at hand, versus Palestine, with virtually nothing, should we justify more crimes?
The evidence should be before us in order to make such comments, not speculate. I can’t answer your question about torture because there is no evidence to confirm or deny that such efforts will result in lives saved.
This is a question of faith. But, even then, how much evidence do you have to back up your claims?
Daniel,
I think your assumptions are incorrect. I was concentrating on Moneo’s comments, not exactly a broad discussion on disregard for human rights in warfare.
Agreed, we should not turn a blind eye to crimes committed by both parties, but there is precedence for acts. And, when crimes have clearly been committed, then we can condemn them outright.
But, should we choose to justify all of them when we think a greater good shall result in the end? No doubt such an action should be argued, but in the case of Israel, with vast resources at hand, versus Palestine, with virtually nothing, should we justify more crimes?
The evidence should be before us in order to make such comments, not speculate. I can’t answer your question about torture because there is no evidence to confirm or deny that such efforts will result in lives saved.
This is a question of faith. But, even then, how much evidence do you have to back up your claims?
One_Question…, you write suspiciously similar to someone else who used to comment on this blog. I’ll be sure to track your IP.
As for your anti-semitic statements, I won’t dignify your them with a response. When you write about Islam’s 14 centuries of crimes with the same vehemence that you use for Israel, then we’ll talk.
One more thing: I got a real good chuckle with your “human rights in warfare” line. It displays your colossal ignorance of history to all concerned.
see, even if we are disagreeing, i didnt see anti semetism in one question.. stupid argument maybe, anti semite no..
Moneo,
I said “DISREGARD for human rights in warfare”. Is that funny? Make me think you aren’t aware of the Geneva Conventions or the additional protocols.
Anyway, I won’t torture myself on figuring out how I made an anti-semitic remark. I’ll just assume that I made the “error” of making the famous “moral equivalent” argument when analyzing crimes of war.
It seems that under Moneo’s frame of thought, Israel has a free ride to flaunt all treaties of international law, even disregard the principles that arised from the Nuremberg Trials, which ironically sought justice for crimes against the Jews.
Geesh, who would have guessed?
“A longtime aide to Jimmy Carter has resigned from the Carter Center think tank, calling the former president’s new book on Israel and the Arabs one-sided and filled with errors.
Kenneth Stein, the Carter Center’s first executive director and founder of its Middle East program, sent a letter that bluntly criticized the book to Carter and others.
Stein wrote that the book, “Palestine: Peace, Not Apartheid,” was replete with factual errors, material copied from other sources and “simply invented segments,” according to an excerpt of the letter published by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.”