27 thoughts on “A Topic for a Tuesday”

  1. If this is in reference to the dictator’s laws of espionage were citizens have to report “counterrevolutionary” activities or risk arrest themselves, then this is true.

  2. The price for freedom has turned out to be a high one; they’re not ready to free themselves.the Cuban revolutionaries who in 1959 fought shoulder-to-shoulder with Fidel Castro, won a victory and power in Cuba. Now, is time for the Cuban people to fight their own battle for freedom.

  3. Sobrino de fidel:

    I deleted your comment and banned you. There’s no room here for idiocy such as yours. Use someone else’s blog for such libel.

    Coconut juice,

    I banned you. if you are interested in knowing why, email me, and Ill be happy to give you an explanation.

  4. I don’t believe Cubans have the fight in them. Although I do believe the Cuban military is substandard at best…Really the only thing there good at is attacking unarmed civilians. If Cubans were to be brave enough to stand up the military they would realize that the big Green machine is alot weaker than it shows. Of course for this to happen there would have to be blood shed on both sides. What fustrates me the most is the fact that Cubans who going against the regime keep on the issue of human rights…I understand that they don’t have any, but the rest of the world does give a shit about human rights. Why can’t they just start thier own counter intelligence movements, bomb some boats, some barracks….I find it amazing that people in the middle east throw rocks at tanks, yet Cubans can’t pick up a rock…For example if you protest you get sent to jail and what not…so if your going to go to jail anyway, make a point and take out some of the regime while your at it. People don’t care if your rotting in a prison, they really just don’t care…The Cuban people’s future is in there hands, ( I guess they have realized it) not the regimes hands. Seriously isn’t true that Cuban Revolution really didn’t have any battles, all the generals and military were bought out by Castro…Yes there was some military resistance in the beginning, but then again that is when everyone thought Castro was Jesus himself. I believe Cuba is ripe for some serious military action.

  5. Dear ReadytoShoot, Yes, it is infuriating, the situation in Cuba. Yes, it makes us angry. Yes, it makes the Cubans in Cuba angry. But to suggest that they start fighting the army is to invite trouble that most Cubans do not want, having enough to worry about, like putting food on the table for their families every day. The only way a rebellion like that might work is if the army supported it. And anyone who goes against the government in any way is silenced (Remember Gen. Ochoa?)The repressive machinery is pervasive. Cubans are basically just trying to survive. I don’t see any action coming from the populace that would bring down the Wall. It’s easy for us to suggest armed resistance, sitting here in our comfortable homes.

  6. Mariana,

    The previous post deals with an uprising in Communist China, where the regime is just as oppressive and stifling and the military is as strong. 30,000 chinese took to the streets in protest and even attacked police and government offices. So, my question is, what’s the difference? Why is it that even under incredibly similar ciscumstances, the Chinese did manage to take to the streets and Cubans dont?

    Im not necessarily arguing against your points, but in this statement:

    But to suggest that they start fighting the army is to invite trouble that most Cubans do not want, having enough to worry about, like putting food on the table for their families every day.

    You could have easily and truthfully changed Cubans to Chinese.

    And, looking at that statement more closely, are you saying that Cubans do want freedom, but dont want to “invite trouble” to get it?

  7. I totally agree that the worst enemy of the Cuban people are the Cuban people. And this is something that is a constant source of frustration to me. Cubans by nature seem to be very individualistic, they are very ambitious and all of them want to be chiefs, not indians. What’s more, there seems to be a lot of envy in the Cuban people, envy for their fellow Cubans, i.e.: for those that are more prosperous than themselves. This is what happened when Castro took over. People started applauding when their rich neighbors had their mansions and businesses confiscated not realizing that they would be next. Castro has been very clever in exploiting this flaw in the Cuban people.

    I feel that this flaw is still alive and kicking in el exilio. I have seen ugly behavior where instead of fighting Castro, anti-castro groups have wasted all of their energy jocking for a position and fighting each other. One time I went to a protest in Washington, D.C. and this sleazeball [and self-appointed leader] from New Jersey spent all of his time on a microphone attacking the late Mas Canosa, instead of attacking Castro.

    During the Elian crisis, there was a lot of ego being thrown around as well and a lot of Elian’s handlers were so consumed with keeping their position that they didn’t listen to wiser voices that could have saved the child. I believe that Constitional Harvard Lawyer Alan Dershowitz wanted to get involved and Elian’s handlers wanted none of that.

    So, yes, we are our own worst enemies. Sad but true and Castro has exploited this flaw for the past 50 years.

  8. Mariana,

    You have a good point in regards to the fact that cubans have to worry about other things like food. That is true, but it’s also true that by not making trouble they (Cubans) still won’t get what they want. I also understand that yes it’s easy to suggest armed resistance from our comfortable homes, but then again how did we get our comfortable homes? It sure wasn’t from the peace movement. Alright, so lets suppose the Cuban resistance needs a spark to start the fire. Where can they get the spark from? What ever happend to the Cuban-American military groups like Alpah 66? Also, remember all resistance starts with a few, then they just grow and grow. So lets say for example that we make the Cuban regime turn on itself..friendly fire accidents? I don’t know, but there has to be a way in. One thing I know for sure is that, If Ocaca wins and tries to turn this country into some socialist state, I will leave my comfortable home and salary and take up arms. I’m not close to the magic number of 250K, but I do know for a fact that everyone in the U.S. is going to suck down a whole lot of tax increases, and for what so someone with two arms, two legs and a brain can sit home and collect more welfare…PLEASE! I guess after all maybe the Cubans are just brain washed and don’t realize how bad they really have it, in fact even if they did take up arms and start a actual real revolution for an elected free society. There situation really wouldn’t be that much worse than it is now. So what no ration card! Like you can really live off a ration card.

  9. Val and Readytoshoot, This is a really interesting discussion. Okay, I’ll give you my comments, one at a time.

    Val, You say, essentially, if 30,000 Chinese can cause a riot, why not 30,000 Cubans? I will try to answer, based on what my Cuban (in Cuba) informants have told me when I bring up this same issue. First thing, Cubans are not Chinese. There is a cultural difference. Secondly, there have been reforms to the system in China that have allowed people to earn more money and perhaps become more confident. Also, there are simply more people in China. I can’t imagine 30,000 Cubans getting together and deciding on anything unless they are being forced to go to some government rally to keep their jobs. Then, there is the very interesting issue of whether Cubans really do want freedom in the way we understand it. For fifty years they have not lived in a democratic culture. And they don’t have a free press. Their government’s propaganda tells them that capitalism and democracy bring homelessness, gun violence and greed. The older generation still believes a lot of this. Perhaps they want freedom to surf the Net, to earn more money, to travel, to buy meat, but do they really want the BIG freedoms, like democracy? Even though they say (in underground polls) that they do, I really don’t think they have the energy or desire to fight for it. Not physically. Not with guns. One Cuban informant puts it this way, “Cubans are basically conservative. They don’t care that much about politics.” He has also said they are “sheep.”

  10. Okay,now for your comments, Readytoshoot:

    1. “How did we get our comfortable homes?” I don’t know about you (did you take up arms and push someone else out?), but I earned money, made a down-payment, paid off a mortgage, etc. Yes, because I am fortunate enough to live in America, where property rights are respected…..

    2. “The Cubans need a spark.” I don’t know any Cuban, even those who are anti-Castro, who want anyone from America telling them what to do, or coming over and invading (which we are barred from doing by our own laws). All the Cubans (in Cuba) I have talked to about this want to fight in their own way. They are very clear about this.

    It is true that there are dissident groups that are supported by the US. But they do not get much publicity in Cuba, and they are disorganized (there are so many of them now) – perhaps if they could get coordinated there would be some hope.

    3. If Obama is elected, you will take up arms and fight. Really? Who are you going to fight? Don’t expect me to come visit you in jail.

    4. People cannot live off the ration book. True. That’s why they wheel and deal on the black market. This is their way of being “free” and fighting the government, of being luchadoras.
    It goes on all the time, this kind of nonviolent resistance. And it takes up all of their time.

  11. I like this conversation that is finally taking place. I think we should seriously consider a military option against the castro thugs. How do you start when you are in another country, when you are confortable, when you have children and grandchildren that you love more than anything. Do I want to leave my grand daughter to go and die fighting to free Cuba?
    I once asked an acquaintance who used to live in South Africa during the apartied era. How was it that you were part of a vast majority yet you were oppresed by a small minority? He answered in an analogy, he said imagine being in a room full of your friends, all of you unarmed, and one guy walks in with a machine gun. What can you do? he said.
    It was his attitude that defeated him, not the situation. In other words, you have to be willing to sacrifice you life. That is the bottom line.

  12. Good point Kenko, it seems that in our modern age we have forgotten how freedom, real freedom is acquired.

    Mariana,

    You have some good points.
    I find it funny that Cubans want to fight the regime in thier own way. Well it’s been fifty years, it sure doesn’t look like there way is working.

    Maybe taking up arms is too aggressive of a term. Instead I will hold silent protest against tax increases and hold my breath until the government changes. haha

    I guess the point I’m trying to make is that you don’t need guns and bullets to change a regime (it helps), but you do need is solidarity amongst the people. Something which I think Castro destroyed….Also remember there are more peole in Cuba than there are bullets…you can’t kill everyone…Who’s going to clean the tourist hotels?

  13. Oh in regards to comfortable homes, I meant that in general our comfortable homes = our freedom. Our freedoms were won with blood and sweat, obviously we all end up buying a home and paying off mortgage unless people fell into the no money down trap. The blood and sweat our fore fathers shed to create this great country of ours.

    So in general do you guys/girls think that Cubans today want more economic freedom and goodies instead of the actual freedoms such as freedom of speech?

  14. This is a topic that is always in the back of my mind. Although I hate to say this, I have to generally agree with Ray’s comment above. None other than Carlos Alberto Montaner (a Cuban patriot if there ever was one) has stated that Cubans as individuals have accomplished great things, but as a collective have failed to achieve or sustain a stable and democratic society. He was referring to Cuba, not necessarily Cubans everywhere. I don’t know if it’s a character flaw or just random luck, but it’s hard to argue with Montaner here.

  15. How many people who are in exile or were in exile (those that passed) at one moment or the other yelled “Patria o muerte, venceremos.” I remember talking to my great aunt (who has since passed) a few years back while looking over some old pictures of her workplace in Cuba before 1959. She pointed out some people in a group picture of all the employees and said, “See that guy over there and that other guy over here they were clandestine 26 of July supporters.” She told me that on Jan 2, 1959 they showed their true colors by showing up to work in olive green “miliciano” garb. She also told me that she ran into one of those “miliciano” collegues in Miami many years later. She asked him , “Oye chico que paso con Patria o Muerte, Venceremos.” A great majority of the Cuban people share the blame with what happened. If anybody points a finger at that bearded bastard or any of the other butchers in that regime there are probably three fingers pointed back at that person and the rest of the Cuban people.

  16. Readytoshoot, I am glad you have calmed down a little. I was ready to send you to anger management (just kidding). Yeah, you are right, “fighting” in their own way has not done much for the Cuban people. Maybe their lack of action DOES come from an innate lack of solidarity. I DO think Castro has very cleverly destroyed this sense in the Cuban people. It has been perverted into solidarity with the “Revolution”. By the way, I haven’t noticed that the Chinese, for all their rioting and disruptions, have toppled THEIR Communist government. Do the Cubans just want economic freedom and not real freedom? Very good question. I think the ones who passionately want real freedom find a way to get out, on their own. Usually they don’t even tell their families they are leaving until the very last minute. There is tremendous distrust, part of the pscyhological destruction that Castro has wrought, as well as the physical destruction of the country. Sorry to sound so hopeless about Cuba. I am just trying to be realistic. The nice thing about being pessimistic is that you can always be pleasantly surprised when something really good happens. Like Fidel’s death, which is bound to happen some day.

  17. in my opinion,yes,we are our own worst enemy…

    let’s go to basics…..there is no will to rebel against the regime,there is no moral to rebel against the regime,there is no convictions to rebel against the regime…..why??…’cause the mayority of cubans were the ones that support the revolution,one way or the other,participating in it,tolerating it,or being part of the machinery of terror,and this was and is exploited by the regime,making most of all cubans part of the genocide,of the mistakes,of the terror and it’s consecuences,so,most cubans lack of moral ,consience,and sense of self steem to iniciate,or lead or simply start a riot…

    when any human being try to fight against something bigger than himself,he needs moral grounds,real consience of the results and the sacrifices that come with it,and cubans in the island and a lot in the exile community don’t have it…

    so,in my opinion,the changes in the island will come from the top,propably after both Castros go to hell…the same way that happened in the ex USSR or China….

    and about the example of China…i agreed with Mariana about the reforms that had taken place in that country,and i would like to add that 30 000 chinese per capita is the equivalent of maybe 20 cubans….chinese are 1.3 billion,cubans are 11 millions,so ,just make simple mathematics,and on top of that,chinese with a litte bit more economics and some political freedom,and that’s the difference….

    saludos

  18. Great Topic today. For those who ask….where are the Action groups like Alfa 66, Comandos Libres, Movimiento Nacionalista Cubano, I say…look around you. Many of these men and women were put into U.S. jails and jails around the world. Some are still in Jail. These Action groups were busy FIGHTING and taking casualties while the vast majority of Cubans, inside and outside Cuba were as we say in good Cuban….COMIENDO MIERDA.
    Cuban dissedents in Cuban Jails rot away without a peep from the vast majority of Cubans exilies around the world. Last December 10th a call went out to freedom loving Cubans and friends of Cuban Freedom to stand with Dr. Darsi Ferrer and dozens of Cubans who asemble in park in El Verado at 11:00 a.m. on that date. The call was heard by some Cubans in Spain and Puerto Rico. Maybe a dozen people. Here in Los Angeles only 4 people showed up at the Los Angeles Times to show solidarity with the dissedents in Havana who were beatup by the govn. gastapo mob. 4 people, amoung them Ziva, who not being Cubans has much more of a Cuban heart than many Cubans that I know. Eliana, a young Cuban American girl who was disgusted with what she saw in a recent trip to Cuba and presented to stand with her people. And Joe, a young American with a Cuban father who grew up to love Cuba through his Dad. The question should be …..Have Cuban cojones retracted during the pass 50 Years?

  19. Maybe we all need is a little Obama in our lives to unite us together. (JUST KIDDING!)

    All kidding aside, since I started reading this blog this has been some of the best dialog.

    There were some great responses in regards to Cuba (Government/Cubans/Exiles/Solidarity).

    I guess it just feels good to hear the truth.

  20. Henry Aguero,i liked your post,but i would like to answer the last question made by you in it,that is…” Have Cuban cojones retracted during the pass 50 Years”.???

    as a reminder,the russians were under communism during 80 years,and if you check history,they had cojones during all that time….

    the chinese were under communism during close to 40 years,and they did have,and still have cojones…

    i beleive that cubans have the same cojones,no more no less…examples can be found in the numerous “adventures” done by Castro,Che,in Latinamerica or Africa,Angola,Ethiopia,etc,in wich cubans showed some cojones for the wrong causes,so,to answer your question,…”cubans still have cojones,but they’ve been used in the wrong causes,and by the wrong people”…

    saludos

  21. What about the Romanians, who finally had enough of Ceausescu and overthrew their version of castro? What about the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, who fought against the SS and the Wermacht? They gave the world the example of how not to be a victim. They may have died but at least they died with dignity and not being herded into a shower stall to be gassed with Zyklon B. These were real men. The Jewish women who fought in 1943 had more balls than I am seeing today in Cuba. Who are the courageous on the Island? Biscet, Damas en Blanco, the prisoners of conscience still in jail, those who have never said “yes” to the tyranny.

    There are many here in exile who are too eager to perpetuate the myth of the Cuban people as victims, while stifling the inspiration they need to rise up against their oppressors and break their chains. Cubans are not victims. They hold their future in their hands. But they have to do something, anything to spark the fire. The memory of the fallen at Bay of Pigs and the brave men and women of the Escambray call out to them from the grave.

  22. A great majority of the Cuban people share the blame with what happened. If anybody points a finger at that bearded bastard or any of the other butchers in that regime there are probably three fingers pointed back at that person and the rest of the Cuban people.

    El guardia rural,

    You totally explained with this paragraph why the Cubans are their own worst enemies.

    The sad and painful fact is that Fidel Castro alone has not caused Cuba’s destruction for the last 49 years. He has had many accomplices along the way.

  23. Thanks for your input Tony44. Do you think that the Cuban pilots flying migs had cojones when they shot down the Hermanos Rescate planes?

    Saludos.

  24. Tony44….Just going over my question to you and I realize its sounds a little combative and its truly not my intention. I know first hand the bravery, the fearlessness and the courage of the Cuban spirit when it up in arms fighting for CUBAN FREEDOM. El Escambray is only ONE example of this valor.
    My point is that today….for CUBA… for Cuban freedom..that spirit does not seem to be there. It seems that only a handful on the Island are carrying the burden and out side of Cuba most Cubans find the load to burdensome.
    Saludos.

  25. Henry,your last question is totally silly…you know and i know the answer….

    you said that i sounded “combative”,maybe,although it wasn’t my intention at all…i just wanted to make a point,and i try to do it again….

    as you said,”that spirit doesn’t seem to be there”,of course it doesn’t,that’s why i tried to express my idea like “cubans still have cojones,but they are using them in the wrong causes,or simply they are not using them at all..but the balls are there…

    George Moneo,i understand your examples,although rumanians didn’t have a true revolution,the communist regime was implanted after de soviets “liberated” them from the nazis,so,it wasn’t a real revolution,nor its people supported the regimen implanted with the help of the soviet army…

    the others examples are really good examples of how people under the worst of circumstances are capable of incredible things,and i believe that..

    but i don’t close my eyes to the reallity of cubans,their demoralization during more than a century,its humiliation,it’s support for the revolution during big part of the last century,and this make them “part of the problem”,misinformation,brainwashed population,divided,and without an idea of the meaning of freedom,something that the men from Bay of Pigs had,something that the men from Escambray had,’cause they grew up under a country with more sense of freedom and how to pursue it than the country that the actual cubans have been growing up for more than a century…

    to clarify…cubans are not and will not and never were victims,we are simply survivors of the regime,some of us outside the country,and 11 millions of survivors inside the country,….the only victims we have are those massacred in the firing squads,drowned in the ocean,desapeard,all this during more than half a century of genocide….

    saludos

  26. Tony44… you are reading too fast. Read my respond again. My post said that I —me—-yo,
    sounded combative. But your points are well taken. Thank you for taking the time to respond even if you think my posting was silly. It is fantastic to live in a nation like ours were we can express opinions AND ideas without having to fear repression or persecution.
    Have a wonderful 4th of July Tony. Fly the flag high and proud.
    Saludos.

  27. jajajajaa…henry,thanks for your paciencia,but sometimes i got “into it” and i read too fast,….

    maybe i have to practice some yoga….

    happy fourth of july for you and your family..

    saludos

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