Real Clear World – Cuban Espionage

I have a variety of interests that I blog about. One of them is college football. Through my activities in that arena I came to know Sam Chi who goes by the pseudonym “the BCS Guru“. Sam is a former sports journalist that runs a B&B on Amelia Island, here in Florida, that I’ve had the pleasure of staying at. Well Sam is now running Real Clear World which is world news sister site of Real Clear Politics. He asked me if I was interested in writing something about Cuba and so I submitted this piece about Cuban espionage in the U.S.

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13 thoughts on “Real Clear World – Cuban Espionage”

  1. Henry,

    Let’s not forget that Obama has also said that Cuba is a small country that poses no threat to the United States either.

  2. First of all – all of the Real Clear sites are absoltely essential. I love Drudge but if you go to RealClearPolitics you don’t need anything else.

    Also, don’t get me wrong because nothing would please me more than seeing Fidel and Raul end up with a Mussolini type ending but what kind of threat does the island of Cuba pose to the US? It’s a sincere question. Honestly if they really ever did anything to us we could crush them like a bug. I would welcome the challenge just to resolve this issue once and for all and shut them up for talking shit for 50 years. They may poke us, they may taunt us but they dare not provoke us. The closest was the shootdown – and as always they chose a Dem to mess with not a Republican. Even Bush 41 would have nailed them.

  3. in the piece I explain that the threat is an intelligence threat that can have military implications like the example of afghanistan.

  4. Cuba by itself MIGHT not be such a threat, it is debatable. What is not is who they interact with, the mullahs of Iran, the Chinese, Chavez,and don’t forget Ana Belen Montes, who worked at the highest levels of the Pentagon and was passing secrets to Cuba.

  5. Cuba by itself MIGHT not be such a threat, it is debatable. What is not is who they interact with, the mullahs of Iran, the Chinese, Chavez,and don’t forget Ana Belen Montes, who worked at the highest levels of the Pentagon and was passing secrets to Cuba.

  6. I read the piece and it was pretty good. I think I should explain where I’m coming from. I’m not saying that we should not guard against espionage but if you want to get technical the Israelis have been much more successful at garnering our secrets than the Cubans. The Wasp Network was real and the conspirators had to be put away but the information they provided was kind of pathetic. Just to give you an idea of what kind of worthless information Cuban informants gathered look at the Alvarez case. The US bugged them for years and let them go about their business for what anyone in espionage business would consider an eternity before finally moving in. Even their sentences reflect the amount of damage down…insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

    The most notable exception remains Montes, which was scary enough. We must guard against spies of her ilk but let’s not overplay Cuba’s hand. It’s harder for them to get agents – they have little money for payouts and the moral argument only works on malcontents, morons or people who have been otherwise compromised.

  7. Cardinal, first of all you make a ton of assumptions and you are wrong about some of your statements.

    The Wasp Network was real and the conspirators had to be put away but the information they provided was kind of pathetic.

    How quickly you forget about the brothers to the rescue shoot-down which was faciliated by members of the Wasp ring who reported flight plan information to Havana.

    Secondly you assume that the information discussed in public hearings is the only information they gathered. We know that the Alvarezes were recruiting agents from among their students we also know that one of them was doing psychological backgrounds for law enforcement.

    You also assume that there aren’t more Ana Belen Montes out there.

    That’s the whole point. You can’t put it past them.

    I agree with you about Israel, and if this were an anti-Israel blog I might write an article about Israeli spying but it’s not so I don’t.

    That tactic of “but the U.S. does it” or “but Israel does it” is, I hate to say it, a preferred one of the enemy that attempts to create a moral equivalency. I AM not accusing you of anything, it’s just a weak debating point.

  8. And I forgot, what about the diplomats of the Wasp network and the ones that escaped? How do you know that the intelligence they were gathering was “pathetic”?

  9. I read the piece and it was pretty good. I think I should explain where I’m coming from. I’m not saying that we should not guard against espionage but if you want to get technical the Israelis have been much more successful at garnering our secrets than the Cubans. The Wasp Network was real and the conspirators had to be put away but the information they provided was kind of pathetic. Just to give you an idea of what kind of worthless information Cuban informants gathered look at the Alvarez case. The US bugged them for years and let them go about their business for what anyone in espionage business would consider an eternity before finally moving in. Even their sentences reflect the amount of damage down…insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

    The most notable exception remains Montes, which was scary enough. We must guard against spies of her ilk but let’s not overplay Cuba’s hand. It’s harder for them to get agents – they have little money for payouts and the moral argument only works on malcontents, morons or people who have been otherwise compromised.

  10. sorry my post went up twice, don’t know why. I did not forget the shootdown, I didn’t mention it because it did not compromise national security. Honestly the shootdown hurt me personally a whole lot more than Montes but I tried to keep my personal feelings out of it and looking at it strictly from a US perspective. I still believe we should have reacted forcefully to that action – by forcefully it means action against the pilots or even a strike against Cuba. Never would have happend under W., Bush 41 or Ronnie.

    We agree on almost everything else too. I think we can agree to disagree on the Alvarez couple. I just don’t see how the US, much less a Republican administration would allow a couple to continue to spy for years while they were being watched. It’s true that normally they are observed for a period of time in the hopes of wiping out a network, but not for as long as the Alvarez family was watched. I’m glad they went down CRI has been soft and commie like since its inception.

    Totally agree that there are probably still others like Montes out there. Both in the government and others like Alavarez clan amongst us. I remember at a backyard gathering with a group that was getting ready to go to Geneva for that Human Rights charade – we were having a blast and talking about how much we enjoyed hanging out when one of us in the circle looked down and said “Isn’t it sad that one of us is probably and infiltrtor?”

    I don’t want to totally diminish Cuba’s efforts of espionage. I do admit that I am more worried about the “dormant” Lourdes facility than their people here. We need to remain vigilant and on guard.

    One last thing – I love Israel and I brought it up only to make a point. I just wanted clarify that. If we would have unleashed Israel before we would not be facing some of the problems we are now. Only they understand the true nature of this war. As for their spying I wish they wouldn’t because it only helps the Pat Buchanans of the world make their point. And yes I prefer a friend spying on us too.

  11. Cardinal just to clarify a difference between the Israel and Cuban, Israeli leaders are not making speeches in Tehran about bringing America to its knees. Israel is an ally, Cuba most definitely is not.

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